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re: Is LSU a blue blood? Is Georgia?
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:22 am to themetalreb
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:22 am to themetalreb
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Ole Miss
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:24 am to themetalreb
I think To be a blue blood you had to be one of those teams that were dominant a long time ago.
It doesn’t mean you’re good now.
Alabama, Norte Dame, Michigan, Ohio State, USC, Ou and Texas.
It doesn’t mean you’re good now.
Alabama, Norte Dame, Michigan, Ohio State, USC, Ou and Texas.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:27 am to themetalreb
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Alabama
Ohio State
USC (yeah I know)
Texas (yeah I know)
Clemson
LSU
Ole Miss
Who am I missing?
Duhhhh...how about Notre Dame?
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:30 am to DawgsLife
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Notre Dame was in the national championship game in 2012, appeared in the College Football Playoff in 2018, and are currently ranked #3 in the country.
While true, they were crushed when they played in those games, which insinuates they were overrated. And when I say crushed I mean totally embarrassed. 42-14 and 30-3.
Even if they are overrated as you say that they are, the fact that they continue to make their way into those games, combined with their ability to have their own TV contract, by definition makes them a blue blood. It's their blue blood...their reputation...that continues to land them in those positions. And that won't change in your lifetime. They are the epitome of a blue blood.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:33 am to themetalreb
Reading this thread and I realize NO ONE has the same definition of what a blue blood is, hence all the deferring opinions.
Maybe ya'll should debate the definition and criteria of a blue blood first, then debate who is on the list.
Maybe ya'll should debate the definition and criteria of a blue blood first, then debate who is on the list.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:33 am to themetalreb
At this point, LSU is just bleeding.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:34 am to lsu777
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To me pre 1970 or even pre 1980 NCs mean much less than more modern knew and honestly BCS and CFP mean even more.
Not true. They may mean less for fans, but teams that won their fair share of national championships in that era generally have the largest revenue streams in college football.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:35 am to remaster916
Michigan, Texas, and Notre Dame are dustbin Bluebloods. Each has won 1 NC since 1980 (40 years is a LONG time)
Nebraska is losing its status
Penn State never was
There are some old bluebloods from before WWII (or WWI), and some of them are on that list.
True Bluebloods-
Alabama
Ohio State
Oklahoma
USCw
Pick any year and 1-2 of these teams will be competing for (if not playing in) the NC
Nebraska is losing its status
Penn State never was
There are some old bluebloods from before WWII (or WWI), and some of them are on that list.
True Bluebloods-
Alabama
Ohio State
Oklahoma
USCw
Pick any year and 1-2 of these teams will be competing for (if not playing in) the NC
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:36 am to themetalreb
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Clemson
LSU
Ole Miss
No
No
& NOOOOO !
Is Georgia ?
This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 10:41 am
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:38 am to SammyTiger
Minnesota was dominant a long time ago
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:46 am to themetalreb
Honestly the term "blue blood" really means "dominated college football in the twentieth century." The only members are:
Alabama
USC
Oklahoma
Michigan
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Texas
Nebraska
Tennessee (arguably)
Penn State (arguably)
No one else is ever getting into that group unless someone invents a time machine. So we need a new classification to describe teams which maybe don't have the historical cachet of the group above, but which have dominated the sport over the past thirty or so years. Since this is something of a "rolling average," the teams in this group can change. I think current members would be:
Alabama
Ohio State
Florida
Clemson
LSU
Oklahoma
USC
Florida State (2013 keeps them here)
Nebraska (fading fast if they don't get their act together; I could be convinced they don't belong here)
You could also make arguments for:
UGA (no NCs count heavily against them)
Auburn (they have NCs, but they are terribly inconsistent)
Michigan (I said you could make an argument, I didn't say it would necessarily be a very convincing one)
Texas (same as Michigan)
Oregon (same as UGA)
Miami (same as Nebraska)
It probably wouldn't take too many impassioned speeches to get me to drop Nebraska to the bottom group and move Auburn up to the top.
Alabama
USC
Oklahoma
Michigan
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Texas
Nebraska
Tennessee (arguably)
Penn State (arguably)
No one else is ever getting into that group unless someone invents a time machine. So we need a new classification to describe teams which maybe don't have the historical cachet of the group above, but which have dominated the sport over the past thirty or so years. Since this is something of a "rolling average," the teams in this group can change. I think current members would be:
Alabama
Ohio State
Florida
Clemson
LSU
Oklahoma
USC
Florida State (2013 keeps them here)
Nebraska (fading fast if they don't get their act together; I could be convinced they don't belong here)
You could also make arguments for:
UGA (no NCs count heavily against them)
Auburn (they have NCs, but they are terribly inconsistent)
Michigan (I said you could make an argument, I didn't say it would necessarily be a very convincing one)
Texas (same as Michigan)
Oregon (same as UGA)
Miami (same as Nebraska)
It probably wouldn't take too many impassioned speeches to get me to drop Nebraska to the bottom group and move Auburn up to the top.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:49 am to TheTideMustRoll
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It probably wouldn't take too many impassioned speeches to get me to drop Nebraska to the bottom group and move Auburn up to the top.
Hasn't the barn been to two national championship games?
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:53 am to themetalreb
Why don't we ask the question, what makes a blue blood?
I found this website and LSU seems to make the cut.
What defines a blue blood?
The pkloa Method
1. At least one National Championship last 50 years. LSU has Three in last 20 years
2. Multiple top 10 finishes last 20 years. LSU can put a check mark on this one for sure
3. Top 25 in attendance every year (maybe one aberration in last 25 years) This year would be the abberation for LSU
4. At least one GREAT season in school history, defined as SRS rating of 25+ on sports-reference.com/cfb 15-0
I found this website and LSU seems to make the cut.
What defines a blue blood?
The pkloa Method
1. At least one National Championship last 50 years. LSU has Three in last 20 years
2. Multiple top 10 finishes last 20 years. LSU can put a check mark on this one for sure
3. Top 25 in attendance every year (maybe one aberration in last 25 years) This year would be the abberation for LSU
4. At least one GREAT season in school history, defined as SRS rating of 25+ on sports-reference.com/cfb 15-0
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:57 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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Is LSU a blue blood?
No
I want to argue but I can’t. We aren’t a blue blood. We are new blood, and that’s ok.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:58 am to themetalreb
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Ole Miss
Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:05 am to themetalreb
Princeton has 26 national titles. Are they a blueblood? Yale has 18. Are they?
Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:06 am to BamaGradinTn
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Even if they are overrated as you say that they are, the fact that they continue to make their way into those games, combined with their ability to have their own TV contract, by definition makes them a blue blood
I am not arguing that they are not a Blue Blood. I am arguing that they have not been very good lately.
Games and records are all good, but hindsight is 20/20 and that tells us if somebody is good. Those blowouts tell us that ND is all window dressing.
quote:I do agree that they are a Blue Blood. I'm not sure how many times I have to say this. My argument was with the statement that they have been good based on 2012 and 2018.
And that won't change in your lifetime. They are the epitome of a blue blood.
They were not very good either year and their big time blow out losses prove it. These were not flukes. Every time they play a team that is truly a contender they fail bigly.
You can't judge ND by wins over USC and Michigan.
Their best win in 2012 was against an Oklahoma team that lost 3 games. In 2018 it was against a Stanford team that lost 4 games.
Again. ND is a Blue Blood, but their recent success is all smoke and mirrors and media driven. Having a national Following does not make you a great football team.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:06 am to UnderDog68
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Princeton has 26 national titles. Are they a blueblood? Yale has 18. Are they?
They won all of those when there was about 10 teams that played football.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:08 am to scott8811
Lol...I love that so many are seriously addressing the Ole Miss mention...REBELZ BABY!!!!
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