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re: Is LSU a blue blood? Is Georgia?
Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:08 am to patawan
Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:08 am to patawan
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Why don't we ask the question, what makes a blue blood?
I found this website and LSU seems to make the cut.
What defines a blue blood?
The pkloa Method
1. At least one National Championship last 50 years. LSU has Three in last 20 years
2. Multiple top 10 finishes last 20 years. LSU can put a check mark on this one for sure
3. Top 25 in attendance every year (maybe one aberration in last 25 years) This year would be the abberation for LSU
4. At least one GREAT season in school history, defined as SRS rating of 25+ on sports-reference.com/cfb 15-0
Using THOSE criteria, Georgia would be considered a Blue Blood.
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:08 am to patawan
That makes LSU a new blood.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:10 am to RollTide1987
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Not true. They may mean less for fans, but teams that won their fair share of national championships in that era generally have the largest revenue streams in college football.
No doubt and that's is usually what most consider blue bloods, top 8 teams.
But in terms historical sigficance for use in a historical ranking
NCs go like this
Cfp>bcs>bowl alliance>polls>pre integration
Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:11 am to UnderDog68
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Princeton has 26 national titles. Are they a blueblood? Yale has 18. Are they?
Neither of them are even in the FBS. So no.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:12 am to themetalreb
Most people will say that there are only eight:
USC, Alabama, Texas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Michigan, Notre Dame and Ohio State
USC, Alabama, Texas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Michigan, Notre Dame and Ohio State
Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:13 am to DawgsLife
Screw it, welcome aboard!
Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:15 am to patawan
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The pkloa Method
Seems pretty stupid. Auburn is a blue blood by that metric and they'll be the first to tell you that they are not blue bloods.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:17 am to djsdawg
Hmmm, the website doesn't say anything about "new blood"
I think you're saying that a program has to have a bunch of wins and dominance in the 1950s and anything lately cant be considered towards that. I'm disagreeing with you. A blue blood is a blue blood, new or old doesn't matter. Time is an illusion anyway.
I think you're saying that a program has to have a bunch of wins and dominance in the 1950s and anything lately cant be considered towards that. I'm disagreeing with you. A blue blood is a blue blood, new or old doesn't matter. Time is an illusion anyway.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:17 am to RollTide1987
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Neither of them are FBS, so no.
Ah, but they were back then. It's recognized by college football.
This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 11:18 am
Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:17 am to themetalreb
I think some people are confused on national blueblood and regional blueblood
National Bluebloods consistently (at least every decade) win or play in the national title game. They are the ones you think of just about every year for the title. Only Alabama, Ohio State, Oklahoma, and USCw fit that group.
Texas, Nebraska, Notre Dame and Michigan have fallen from that perch.
Everybody else you are talking about is a regional blueblood
National Bluebloods consistently (at least every decade) win or play in the national title game. They are the ones you think of just about every year for the title. Only Alabama, Ohio State, Oklahoma, and USCw fit that group.
Texas, Nebraska, Notre Dame and Michigan have fallen from that perch.
Everybody else you are talking about is a regional blueblood
This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 11:21 am
Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:18 am to RollTide1987
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For me...a program has to meet certain criteria to even be in the discussion for it.
- 800+ overall wins
- An all-time winning percentage around .700
- Consistent Top 10/15 finishes in the last 70 years
- Consistent appearances in major post-season bowls (Rose, Sugar, Orange, Fiesta, Cotton, etc.)
- 5 or more claimed national championships (from either the CFP, BCS, AP, Coaches, FWAA, or NFF)
- 20 or more P5 conference championships
- Rank in the Top 15 for number of consensus All-Americans
Obviously a program doesn't have to meet ALL but it needs to meet a majority of the criteria listed above.
There are a couple of programs that meet and exceed ALL of that criteria.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:19 am to Tiger fan999
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how is lsu like Uconn at all
WildcatMike doesn't like Uconn, apparently.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:19 am to RollTide1987
Im making the arguement that it doesnt matter what you think. These are the metrics by which logical people use to make decisions.
They have other metrics on that website too that I'm sure rule out Auburn. But LSU still makes the cut.
Yes Bama makes the cut too!
They have other metrics on that website too that I'm sure rule out Auburn. But LSU still makes the cut.
Yes Bama makes the cut too!
Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:21 am to UnderDog68
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Ah, but they were back then.
Back when? The vast majority of their national championships were awarded, retroactively, after they left major college football.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:22 am to patawan
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Im making the arguement that it doesnt matter what you think.
Judging by your grammar your opinion doesn't matter for shite anyway.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:23 am to TideFaninFl
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Texas, Nebraska, Notre Dame and Michigan have fallen from that perch.
That's kind of drastic huh? ND has made the BCS championship game and the CFP recently. They probably didn't deserve it, but it happened.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:24 am to RollTide1987
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Back when? The vast majority of their national championships were awarded, retroactively, after they left major college football.
There was also a period of time where national championships were awarded before boel games and some teams were national champions in a year but lost their bowl game.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:26 am to VABuckeye
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There was also a period of time where national championships were awarded before boel games and some teams were national champions in a year but lost their bowl game.
Or years they didn’t play in one, like 1942...
Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:27 am to RollTide1987
This is the dumbest thing you can say on the internet.
"oo i dont have a comeback so Ill just attack the person for not using a comma!"
"oo i dont have a comeback so Ill just attack the person for not using a comma!"
Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:29 am to Mithridates6
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That's kind of drastic huh? ND has made the BCS championship game and the CFP recently. They probably didn't deserve it, but it happened.
So has Texas, and they even won a NC (2005), but decades between titles has to have some consequence. Of all those it is Nebraska that fell the shortest time ago (when they joined the Big Ten)
Last two NC for Texas- 2005, 1970
Last two NC for Notre Dame- 1988, 1977
Last two NC for Michigan- 1997, 1948
Last two NC for Nebraska- 1997, 1995
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