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re: Is anybody here worried about what CFB is becoming?
Posted on 5/12/21 at 11:29 pm to RD Dawg
Posted on 5/12/21 at 11:29 pm to RD Dawg
None of the change you listed bothers me at all, what bothers me is how quickly the game has changed to a pass happy playground type of game. It's by far, the most boring style of football to watch.
The offensive has a massive advantage over the defensive with the current rule set. You can't hit people anymore, you can't punish receivers for going across the middle, you can barley touch the QB, you basically can't touch the receivers until they catch the ball and even then you have 30 different ways of getting kicked out of the game unless you tackle them with as little contact as possible.
The game just sucks. The defensive strategy these days are to sit back and hope the offensive makes a mistake. When you play against a team like Alabama that doesn't really happen. The scores are 70 to 85, all records are shattered.. sorry, the game is just stupid.
I love my Hogs, and yes they have sucked for a long time but I loved all football and use to watch games all day on Saturday. Now I just watch the Hogs because it isn't worth my time to watch a 5 hour game of pass plays. And I'll admit, I've been watching the last couple of seasons of the Hogs game on tape delay (DVR).. I turn off my phone and sit on the coach and basically fast forward through the game.. because it just simply is not entertaining.. even when we are winning.
The game today sucks, period.
The offensive has a massive advantage over the defensive with the current rule set. You can't hit people anymore, you can't punish receivers for going across the middle, you can barley touch the QB, you basically can't touch the receivers until they catch the ball and even then you have 30 different ways of getting kicked out of the game unless you tackle them with as little contact as possible.
The game just sucks. The defensive strategy these days are to sit back and hope the offensive makes a mistake. When you play against a team like Alabama that doesn't really happen. The scores are 70 to 85, all records are shattered.. sorry, the game is just stupid.
I love my Hogs, and yes they have sucked for a long time but I loved all football and use to watch games all day on Saturday. Now I just watch the Hogs because it isn't worth my time to watch a 5 hour game of pass plays. And I'll admit, I've been watching the last couple of seasons of the Hogs game on tape delay (DVR).. I turn off my phone and sit on the coach and basically fast forward through the game.. because it just simply is not entertaining.. even when we are winning.
The game today sucks, period.
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 12:32 am to well2thebone
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Its not a lower grade product
Yes it is. To suggest otherwise is just silly.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 12:48 am to TexasTiger08
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It’s already changed immensely in my lifetime. The BCS, CFP, and recently the Transfer Portal have been major changes to the game. This doesn’t even include the on-field product. The sport is much more corporate, and with the NIL, it will become even worse in that regard. The players hardly seem like students. We have university donors flooding the athletic department with cash, while other buildings are allowed to look like garbage. The money spent on a random defensive lineman far outweighs that which is spent on an overachiever in the academic sector.
Factor in opt outs from bowls becoming the norm, which may spread to regular season games.
There’s a lack of parity which seems to worsen with the playoff. The uniqueness of college football and the lack of a formal postseason is being wiped out.
I’m wondering if and when things will go too far and the popularity of the sport will dwindle.
Then go watch golf!
Posted on 5/13/21 at 1:14 am to TrueLefty
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Then go watch golf!
I enjoy watching and playing golf. It’s a solid sport that folks can play well into their later years.
What’s your point?
Posted on 5/13/21 at 1:28 am to TexasTiger08
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Then go watch golf!
I enjoy watching and playing golf. It’s a solid sport that folks can play well into their later years.
What’s your point?
You not liking the way things are going in CFB then do something else.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 5:21 am to TexasTiger08
All sports will be under the thumb of SJWs eventually so enjoy while you can.....and no I'm not worried bc it's going to happen.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 8:49 am to red sox fan 13
There has never been parity in college football or most college sports.
Programs who have won the CFP NC the past 7 years:
ACC: Clemson (2)
Big10: OSU
Big12:
PAC 12:
SEC: Alabama (3), LSU
Ind:
Other programs that have made the CFP the past 7 years:
Oregon, FSU, MSU, OU (4), Wash, UGA, ND (2)
Program who won NCs (AP or Coaches/UPI) ~50 years ago (last 7 years of the 70s, 73-79) (3 years there was a split NC, thus 10 NCs awarded):
ACC:
Big10:
Big8: OU (2)
PAC8: USC (2)
SEC: Alabama (3)
SW:
Ind: ND (2), Pitt
The only other programs who appeared in the year-end AP top 4 were:
OSU (4), Mich (2), Ariz St, Houston, Ark, PSU.
So we see that the size of the field is almost identical to 50 years ago.
Number of programs winning NCs: 5 vs 4 now
Other programs in the field: 6 vs 7 now
Not only that, some of the programs are the same in both periods: Alabama, OU, OSU, ND.
Programs who have won the CFP NC the past 7 years:
ACC: Clemson (2)
Big10: OSU
Big12:
PAC 12:
SEC: Alabama (3), LSU
Ind:
Other programs that have made the CFP the past 7 years:
Oregon, FSU, MSU, OU (4), Wash, UGA, ND (2)
Program who won NCs (AP or Coaches/UPI) ~50 years ago (last 7 years of the 70s, 73-79) (3 years there was a split NC, thus 10 NCs awarded):
ACC:
Big10:
Big8: OU (2)
PAC8: USC (2)
SEC: Alabama (3)
SW:
Ind: ND (2), Pitt
The only other programs who appeared in the year-end AP top 4 were:
OSU (4), Mich (2), Ariz St, Houston, Ark, PSU.
So we see that the size of the field is almost identical to 50 years ago.
Number of programs winning NCs: 5 vs 4 now
Other programs in the field: 6 vs 7 now
Not only that, some of the programs are the same in both periods: Alabama, OU, OSU, ND.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:03 am to tattoo
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So we see that the size of the field is almost identical to 50 years ago.
Number of programs winning NCs: 5 vs 4 now
Other programs in the field: 6 vs 7 now
Not only that, some of the programs are the same in both periods: Alabama, OU, OSU, ND.
Parity isn't just about teams that are winning the national championship. It's also about conference championships, bowl berths, and the overall competitiveness of the sport. The idea of crowning a "true champion" in major college football is relatively new - only emerging in the last 30 years or so with the advent of the Bowl Coalition in 1992. Coinciding with the growing monopoly ESPN has on the sport, more and more emphasis was placed on who was in competition for a national championship until - with the advent of the College Football Playoff - that is all ESPN focused on.
Prior to the 1992 season, most of the emphasis was placed on beating your rival, winning your conference, and making it to a New Years Day bowl game. The game had a local color to it that was unique to the rest of major American sports. Since the quest began to crown a true national champion, that local color has left the game as the sport has slowly gone national. Traditional rivalries that persisted and entertained fans for decades became ruined by petty squabbles over TV money and conference re-alignment.
With the advent of the College Football Playoff, ESPN focused its coverage to the "Who's In" mantra. Fewer and fewer teams received coverage on the network as it narrowed its focused to just the championship contenders. This has been to the detriment of smaller schools and schools on the periphery of becoming collegiate powerhouses.
As a result...it no longer feels like the sport is being played nationwide. If your name is not Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Oklahoma, Ohio State, or Clemson, your school gets very little coverage these days.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:04 am to coachcrisp
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You're either too young, or too naive to have a clue about what NIL is going to do to amateur sports.
I am neither young, nor naive. Again, you have presented a false dichotomy. Why are you relying on these fallacies? You seem to be unable to make an honest argument.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 12:11 pm to TexasTiger08
College football has lost its pageantry.
It feel corporate and commercialized now instead of going back to cheer for your school.
College Baseball right now feels to me what CFB did back when it had that pageantry. I encourage y’all to get into College Baseball, it’s a lot of fun and still has that localized school aspect.
Like a prime example for football is how no one cares about college game day anymore. That used to be the biggest thing every week was where would game day go?
It feel corporate and commercialized now instead of going back to cheer for your school.
College Baseball right now feels to me what CFB did back when it had that pageantry. I encourage y’all to get into College Baseball, it’s a lot of fun and still has that localized school aspect.
Like a prime example for football is how no one cares about college game day anymore. That used to be the biggest thing every week was where would game day go?
Posted on 5/13/21 at 12:23 pm to pioneerbasketball
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A football game shouldn't last more than 4 hours
That's the only real issue I have. A football game really shouldn't last more than 3 hours.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 12:23 pm to Blackie LeBlanc
quote:So are you inferring that there is no evidence to prove what I said is true, or do you just not share my opinion?
I am neither young, nor naive. Again, you have presented a false dichotomy. Why are you relying on these fallacies? You seem to be unable to make an honest argument.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 12:25 pm to TexasTiger08
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There’s a lack of parity which seems to worsen with the playoff.
bullshite. There's more parity now than ever. The only years in the seventies that Alabama didn't win the SEC were 1970 and 1976.
Between 1968 and 1982, no one won the Big 10 championship other than Ohio State and Michigan, other than one year when Iowa tied and another year when Michigan State tied.
Between 1972 and 1981, Washington and USC won every Pac 10 championship except one.
That's a total of 35 conference championships won by only five teams.
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 5/13/21 at 12:27 pm to TexasTiger08
Money corrupts everything, the moment we started paying head coaches millions of dollars, it was only a matter of time. Amateur college football doesn’t exist any longer if it ever did. Just inevitable.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 12:40 pm to red sox fan 13
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Imagine TJ Ribs reaches out to Myles Brennan to do a commercial. Brennan films a commercial with them, saying come eat at TJ Ribs. Due to his position as a popular LSU player, more people come to eat. TJ Ribs pays Brennan and they go their separate ways. I see absolutely nothing wrong with that.
I don’t have any problem with this scenario.
Gets a little weird if 75% of his money is taken away from him and redistributed.
I'm confusing separate issues...
Some people are saying all players should be paid as in salaries.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 1:27 pm to coachcrisp
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So are you inferring that there is no evidence to prove what I said is true, or do you just not share my opinion?
Both. You have presented no evidence to support your claim that NIL will "destroy college football". So far you have only made assertions based on your personal beliefs.
I also do not share your opinion. I acknowledge that your position may come true, but so may any number of other possible outcomes.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 4:48 pm to TexasTiger08
I still believe the P5 will split off and form their own division and play only P5 teams with an 8 team playoff. It just makes too much sense, the money would be astronomical.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 5:07 pm to TexasTiger08
I worry about it. That "feeling" CFB has, I'm not eloquent enough to describe it, is fading.
A personal example: LSU's 2019 natty felt amazing, but it didn't "feel" the same as years past. I think you had to experience years past to truly understand what that feeling is. We all know it is fading.
A personal example: LSU's 2019 natty felt amazing, but it didn't "feel" the same as years past. I think you had to experience years past to truly understand what that feeling is. We all know it is fading.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 5:26 pm to Blackie LeBlanc
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Both. You have presented no evidence to support your claim that NIL will "destroy college football". So far you have only made assertions based on your personal beliefs.
I also do not share your opinion. I acknowledge that your position may come true, but so may any number of other possible outcomes.
How do you "present evidence" about something that hasn't even occurred?
My opinion comes from 74 years of watching what the intrusion of money into basically pure endeavors has on their outcomes....what have you seen?
Posted on 5/13/21 at 5:34 pm to Rayburn8
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College football has lost its pageantry.
It feel corporate and commercialized now instead of going back to cheer for your school.
College Baseball right now feels to me what CFB did back when it had that pageantry. I encourage y’all to get into College Baseball, it’s a lot of fun and still has that localized school aspect.
Like a prime example for football is how no one cares about college game day anymore. That used to be the biggest thing every week was where would game day go?
Man...I can't agree more. CFB definitely has gotten too corporatey
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