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re: Is an Auburn move to the SEC East imminent?

Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:04 pm to
Posted by GruvenDawg
Member since Jul 2018
893 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:04 pm to
Auburn/UGA would lose their cross division rivals and Bama would have to make a decision about keeping either Auburn or UT as their cross division rivals.
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2122 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:11 pm to
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I feel it’s quite likely that some sort of 3 permanent, 5 rotating schedule or some other iteration will be announced. Go to 9 and make it 4-5 or 3-6?? There are pros and cons to each.


The beauty of 3 permanent and five rotating is that it works out evenly--you play the other 13 teams in 2 years. If we went to a 9 game schedule, and you went 4 permanent and five rotating, or 3 permanent and six rotating, you'd have an unbalanced rotation (only 9 teams to rotate over 10 games for 4/5, and only 10 to rotate over 12 games for 3/6). If the league went to 16 teams (which I don't want), then a 3/6 rotation would work out even.
Posted by GruvenDawg
Member since Jul 2018
893 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:37 pm to
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Yes... all fans should want to decrease the chances of SEC teams making it into the playoffs.

I would vote 1,000,000 in favor of the Roommate Switch proposal before just jumping to 9 game schedule. 9 Games doesn't substantively improve things, it isn't innovative... it's reactionary.

9 games would be fine as a second step if we started to see issues with playoff committee selection, but for those of us with OOC in-state rivalries that we don't bitch out of playing, 9 games makes for an infinitely less appealing OOC slate.


Eventually conference re-alignment is going to happen (PAC 12 and Big 12) and the playoffs will expand to 8 teams to deal with SEC/ACC dominance. Get ahead of both of those by being innovative as you said. Nine game conference schedules for P5 teams will probably be added on in the next playoff negotiation anyways. The B1G, PAC, and B12 will insist to try and keep SEC and ACC from getting an auto lock bid every year.

Add Oklahoma and Kansas from Big 12. Go to pod scheduling. Minimum 9 game conference and one P5 OOC required (preferably 2) so UF, UGA, SC, etc. aren’t at a disadvantage due to traditional rivalries.

Play your pod every year and 2 from every other pod. Each year you play one traditional big team and one traditional tier 2 team from each pod. Biggest issues is loss of some of the traditional conference cross division rivals. I tried to pair up teams so each pod has two traditional powers that already have rivalries and two traditional 2nd tiers that already have rivalries. Alabalam/UT/AU pod is top heavy based on traditional powers, and LSU pod is a little light. You play every team in the conference every 2 years and home and home every 4 years. Schedule would be 5/4 home/away schedule one year flip with 4/5 home/away the next year. Schedule the P5 opponent on the year you only have 4 SEC home games.

Requires amendment to NCAA rules to allow SEC championship game to continue.

SEC Pod 1
Alabama
Tennessee
Auburn
Vanderbilt

SEC Pod 2
Oklahoma
Texas A&M
Missouri
Kansas

SEC Pod 3
Louisiana
Arkansas
Mississippi
Mississippi State

SEC Pod 4
Georgia
Florida
Kentucky
South Carolina

Sample UGA schedule
#UGA Year 1
(P5 opponent/School choice)
USC
UK
UF
Vandy
(School Choice)
Alabama
Ole Miss
LSU
KU
TA&M
GT

#UGA Year 2
(P5 opponent/School choice)
USC
UK
UF
Tenn
(School Choice)
Ark
AU
MSU
Missouri
OU
GT

This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 2:40 pm
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7290 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 3:49 pm to
HOW are you going to achieve balance unless you change the schedule EVERY YEAR?
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7290 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 3:55 pm to
Maybe in BR, but not publicly until TN took a downfall losing to Alabama did this start being shouted that "c-d games are unfair to LSU".
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
9804 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 3:56 pm to
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Swap Auburn and Tennessee. "Problem" solved.



I have no problem with that. We have about the same record vs each this century.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7290 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 3:59 pm to
Tn. or Miss..

Just because they're a neighboring state doesn't make them a rival.
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 4:18 pm
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30216 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 4:03 pm to
This is the same old shite every off season. Auburn isn’t goin anywhere, we arent adding a 9 game schedule, we aren’t making any changes from the status quo.
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 4:47 pm
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7290 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 4:09 pm to
16 teams would be 4x4 pods. The you could play H/H in 6 years. Also makes the SECCG interesting:

Year 1: AB winner vrs. CD winner
Year 2: AC winner vrs. BD winner
Year 3: AD winner vrs. BC winner
Repeat with locations reversed.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71421 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 4:12 pm to
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SEC Pod 3
Louisiana
Arkansas
Mississippi
Mississippi State


Who dis?
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7290 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 4:17 pm to
Who flips from 4 to 5 games...the whole pod or 1/2 the pod? Every year 2 will have 2H/1A & 2 will have 1H/2A

SEC Pod 4
Georgia
Florida
Kentucky
South Carolina

Ex.:
Georgia - Florida, @ KY, SC
Florida - @ Georgia, KY, @ SC
KY - Georgia, @ Florida. SC
SC - @ Georgia, Florida, @ KY
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 4:21 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 4:44 pm to
It's so fricking stupid that Auburn and Florida stopped playing.
Posted by GruvenDawg
Member since Jul 2018
893 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 5:11 pm to
I haven’t done a home away sample schedule yet. 1/2 of each pod is designated first year home games. 8 teams get 5 home games, 8 teams get 4. The next year it flips.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 5:21 pm to
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It's so fricking stupid that Auburn and Florida stopped playing.



The fact that there is a high number of AU Alums that live in Florida did not reinforce that judgement of the decision. The reason it was done was to protect the Bama-TN series. A series that pretty much means nothing today.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7290 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 5:22 pm to
I understand that. But from my example, each pod can't have everybody with the same setup. Playing the other groups can either be the same teams each season rotating in 2; or flipping every year since each will always be 1H & 1A. It's just the pod partners that is the determining factor of who is 5H & 4H. This may alter when you play other pod teams.
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 5:35 pm
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 5:22 pm to
Auburn wouldn't survive in the East.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 5:26 pm to
quote:

Auburn wouldn't survive in the East.




You are probably correct. Gus would overthink gameplans when he has four weeks in between tough games.
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
9451 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 5:26 pm to
He mentioned a possibility of not having divisions and the top 2 teams play for conference championship like the big 12 and maybe sun belt does. He mentioned that could be a topic that gets brought up. That ends this cross divisional BS.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7290 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 5:35 pm to
Yet majority of the SEC does not think c-d is BS.
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
75431 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 5:37 pm to
frick Auburn
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