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re: Is an Auburn move to the SEC East imminent?

Posted on 4/30/19 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 12:40 pm to
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Yet LSU was QUIET about c-d games when Tn. kept beating Alabama in the 90's!!!


That’s actually not true, this has been talked about in BR since the 92 expansion. There was just no internet then.
Posted by southernboisb
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 12:43 pm to
Hince why I said y'all NEVER had issues in the 90's! *ROTFLMAO*
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 12:44 pm to
Yeah if it were up to me I would rotate everyone on and off the schedule with no permanents of any kind, but I realize that’s not a reasonable expectation. No divisions with 3 permanents and 5 rotating is the best that could realistically actually happen.

I would want LSU to have Bama as one of the 3 permanents under that system but probably not fair to give Bama Auburn, Tennessee, and LSU.
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 12:47 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 12:44 pm to
That’s factually incorrect though
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 12:47 pm to
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Yeah if it were up to me I would rotate everyone on and off the schedule with no permanents of any kind, but I realize that’s not a reasonable expectation. No divisions with 3 permanents and 5 rotating is the best that can be realistically expected.

I would want LSU to have Bama as one of the 3 permanents under that system but probably not fair to give Bama Auburn, Tennessee, and LSU.


Yea LSU/Bama would have to die as a permanent but under that strucute I'm pretty sure you end up playing everybody every other year, which would almost make it a bigger deal.

I'd love that system. Would be fun for everyone and much more fair.
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 12:51 pm to
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USC is not a rival for UGA. This has been debated plenty of times in the past.


wrong

we played them every year for a long time

IF we went to a system like this, every school would get to pick at least one team that they "have to have"

Carolina would assuredly pick UGA

Who else would you feel compelled to keep? Tenn? KY? Vandy?

South Carolina makes the most sense
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 12:51 pm to
Right I would rotate the five every single year. The more rotation you have the more balanced the schedule ends up being from year to year. If Team X ends up with a generational QB then you’ll definitely have to play him either his sopn or junior years but there won’t be a scenario where you get him both years while some teams avoid him entirely except his Freshman year.
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 12:53 pm
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 12:58 pm to
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I would want LSU to have Bama as one of the 3 permanents
I don't see how it's possible with 3

Ole Miss and aTm would be a given for LSU, so that only leaves 1 spot

my guess is that most LSU people would have Arkansas and Miss State as higher priorities than Bama

I would bet that aTm would insist on LSU, so dropping that game would not likely be an option
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:00 pm to
Yeah LSU would end up with A&M and Ole Miss for sure. I guess Arky would be the other one. Then you’d break up the rotation so you’d get say Florida & Auburn on one rotation and Bama & Georgia on the other.
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 1:01 pm
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:01 pm to
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Your next 4 seasons (2014, 2015, 2016, 2017) your East opponents were a combined 25-39 in the SEC. Only 2 of the 8 even had winning SEC records.


Facts are so inconvenient.
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:08 pm to
The ebb and flow of the SEC makes it foolish for a team to move to get an easier schedule. People forget that UT and UF use to decide the SEC within the first three weeks of the season. Both programs will improve. The key now is season ticket packages. There will be a further decline in actual attendance until those changes happen. Fans have sent a message to the ADs.
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 1:36 pm
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:10 pm to
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I just wish we would move to a 9 game conference schedule already
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This. All fans should want this.


Yes... all fans should want to decrease the chances of SEC teams making it into the playoffs.

I would vote 1,000,000 in favor of the Roommate Switch proposal before just jumping to 9 game schedule. 9 Games doesn't substantively improve things, it isn't innovative... it's reactionary.

9 games would be fine as a second step if we started to see issues with playoff committee selection, but for those of us with OOC in-state rivalries that we don't bitch out of playing, 9 games makes for an infinitely less appealing OOC slate.
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:13 pm to
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Yes... all fans should want to decrease the chances of SEC teams making it into the playoffs.



All it would do is reduce the chance of two teams making the Playoff. That is why they need to go with just Conference Champions. The system now is just holding back CF from have games that mean something.
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:24 pm to
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the Roommate Switch proposal
that site just tried to give my phone AIDS, looks like they have a virus
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:26 pm to
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The ebb and flow of the SEC makes it foolish for a team to move to get an easier schedule. People forget that UT and UF use to decide the SEC within the first three weeks of the season. Both programs will improve. The key now is season ticket packages. There will be a further decline in actual attendance until those chances happen. Fans have sent a message to the ADs.


Yep, improve the game day experience, upgrade concessions, lower costs, provide ease of access logistically, improve facilities (chair backs/larger seats).

Make the game day experience more comfortable, enjoyable, and less expensive. Otherwise fans will choose to sit at home in front of the big screen with the bathroom down the hall, beer and good food at their fingertips and channel surf to catch all the games live on TV.
Posted by FredBear
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:29 pm to
Personally to me Auburn to the east and Missouri to the west makes sense. If they went to a 9 game schedule it could be done and the permanent opponents could be kept.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:38 pm to
The thing is in terms of wanting to see games as a fan my list goes like this

- Rivals (Auburn, Tennessee)
- everyone in the league

The divisional set up means I don't get to see half the league while having to see 2-3 teams every year that I just don't have any reason to care about (especially at the expense of everyone else).

It's antiquated.
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:41 pm to
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The thing is in terms of wanting to see games as a fan my list goes like this

- Rivals (Auburn, Tennessee)
- everyone in the league

I feel exactly the same way, but my list is Auburn and Florida

SC would my a distant 3rd, everyone else? Happy to rotate...
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:46 pm to
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SC would my a distant 3rd, everyone else? Happy to rotate...


Yea, and there have to be 3 each to make it work and almost everyone either has 3 legit rivals or 2 legit rivals and a 3rd they've at least played a lot (for us State fits that bill).
Posted by phil4bama
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:58 pm to
What Finebaum is telling us that change is coming. It’s already been decided and to hell with what the fans want, as usual. I think they are telling us that divisions are going away. They’ve done away with it in everything but football. The only reason they kept it for football was that arcane rule that made it the only way you could have a championship game but the Big XII already did us the favor of gutting that rule.

I think they will hold off on the 9 conference games for now but they might not. Too many B1G and PAC voices (and to a lesser extent the Big XII) clamoring that it’s unfair. Change is coming and it will be mandated by the NCAA if we don’t get out in front of it and craft it the way we want it instead of letting someone else do it.

I feel it’s quite likely that some sort of 3 permanent, 5 rotating schedule or some other iteration will be announced. Go to 9 and make it 4-5 or 3-6?? There are pros and cons to each.

I also think they are trying to get out ahead of the CFP going to 8 since that’s not far off. It was brought up for discussion just recently by the folks that decide those things but it was tabled...for now. $$$ will win in the end and it will pass. There’s a lot of truth in that statement that divisions could cost us a participant in the CFP and that thought scares the shite out of Sankey and the presidents. They’ve grown quite used to and fond of that large paycheck in January. Scrapping divisions allows the 2 best teams to play and enhances the chances of 2 SEC teams getting in the CFP.

Memorial Day will be quite interesting in Destin.
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