Started By
Message

re: I’m sure I’m beating a dead horse but that targeting ejection rule...

Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:25 am to
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
21690 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:25 am to
It's simple. Especially the case last night. These defenders HAVE TO stop lowering their head.

The rules guy explained it perfectly. He said the rule is you cannot hit an opposing player with the crown of your helmet anywhere on that guy from head to toe. If he kept his head up, he's not ejected. It's not only for the safety of the ball carrier.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6691 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:37 am to
quote:

The rules guy explained it perfectly. He said the rule is you cannot hit an opposing player with the crown of your helmet anywhere on that guy from head to toe.


The problem with that is, if the Clemson player lifts his head, he would have made helmet-to-helmet contact. So he was getting ejected anyway. The only way the Clemson player is not penalized in that situation is if he tries to spin around and hip check the other player.

Similar situation towards the end of the Saints v 49ers game. A Saint DB crouched down and the 49er player ran into the crown of the DBs helmet. 15 yard penalty, no ejection though.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:05 am to
quote:

...was properly applied for the safety of all players. /thread


There were worse hits in the game made by both teams that were not called.

The ejection was stupid.

Pussification of football.
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
20316 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:08 am to
All I know is that I would have absolutely chewed out one of my defensive players for that hit. It was a spear and the head was down. Entirely preventable and exceptionally unsafe for the defender. I have sat players for doing that until they correct it (they are super young at 11).

The penalty sucks though.
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:09 am to
quote:

it was probably an accurate call going by the rule
it was literally a textbook call. The rules exists as much for the defenders own safety as the guy he’s tackling. Dude is going to paralyze himself tackling that way.
Posted by Arbengal
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
3222 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:10 am to
And who in the HELL is going to make that determination. They can’t even get the. Alls right when the whole world is watching on the replay, and you expect someone to make an intent call. No way that’s happening.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
36424 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:14 am to
At least let them stay on the sideline in post season games to be with their teammates. Having to sit in the locker room by yourself (imagine if it happened in the first quarter) is brutally harsh
Posted by Biloxi Bacon
Member since Aug 2018
146 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:15 am to
Did you have the same narrative for Devin White last year?
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
121282 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:18 am to
quote:

Don't care. Last night's officiating was awesome.
Clemson deserved everything they got.
quote:

DisplacedBuckeye

Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
9619 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:18 am to
Lots of LSU fans in this thread white knighting for the ejection since it went in their favor, but I agree with you. Make the call and apply a penalty for the hit, certainly. But the auto-ejection is stupid and out of line with every other penalty on the books. So if I grab a guy by the face mask and use it to tackle him it’s only a personal foul and 15 yards, but if I commit targeting, it’s that plus sitting out for an entire game? Doesn’t make sense. I’d complain less if they changed the rules to make every personal foul an auto-ejection than just singling that one out and making it worse.

We can talk about “teaching kids proper tackling technique” all we want but we all know the rule is there to protect the NCAA against potential lawsuits related to concussions. That is all it ever was intended to be.
Posted by bbeck
Member since Dec 2011
15078 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:21 am to
They should change the rule slightly to not eject the player if the contact is not to the head.
Posted by TKLSUMD
Young Harris Georgia
Member since Oct 2011
1862 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:23 am to
quote:

Sure, penalize them but that dude didn’t deserve to get tossed.


I agree. The rule needs to be changed.
Posted by JOHNN
Prairieville
Member since Nov 2008
4369 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:24 am to
quote:


I feel that the call needs to be there to protect the player but should be split into two different calls. One for malicious contact with intent where the rule remains as is and one for inadvertent contact with a 15 yard personal foul and no ejection.


Completely agree with this. Not sure why they cant do something along the lines of the NBA with a Flagrant 1 or Flagrant 2 foul.

What they certainly have to change is when a defensive player is clearly going low and the offensive player braces down in order to absorb the hit and there is an unintended helmet to helmet. Thats what I feel is the most egregious bc they will always hold the defensive player accountable for that.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
32715 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:25 am to
It should be applied like unsportsmanlike penalty. Two and you’re out.

That backer is a fricking stud.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39820 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:26 am to
Except he didn’t have to defy gravity to not spear the player he was tackling. If he hits with his face mask, he stays in the game.


And that dude was a fricking cruise missile out there.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:27 am to
quote:

Wolfhound45


Last night was fun. I had a group of Clemson fans around me. So much fun.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39820 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:28 am to
quote:

Too me it is a BS call. I understand the rule but there was no ill intent and it is a contact sport after all.


He just did the most dangerous action to a players life in the game. How many players have been paralyzed because they lower their head just a little too much and their spines have been compressed/broken? That was the intent of this rule
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
121282 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:28 am to
quote:

Last night was fun. I had a group of Clemson fans around me. So much fun.
Bet they wish they hadn't of intercepted that ball now
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Faulkner County
Member since Jun 2009
14695 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:28 am to
quote:

for the safety of all players.

/thread

The targeting rule is a typical over-reaction by the NCAA. Very few times should a rejection ever occur. The targeting rule is akin to the dead aluminum bats in college baseball that we now see.

When players are going full speed, moving, juking, shifting, head bobbing, etc., helmet contact is going to happen, no matter if the player is trying to avoid it. Rejections for non-malicious/non intentional hits are ridiculous.

/thread
Posted by Stewart12
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
256 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:28 am to
i Agree with ya. He wasn’t targeting the player
first pageprev pagePage 2 of 4Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow SECRant for SEC Football News
Follow us on X and Facebook to get the latest updates on SEC Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitter