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re: If you clone Saban and give him to each member of the big 6, who is the best?

Posted on 3/31/16 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 3:45 pm to
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5- Bama/AU- This is just completely due to them Sharing a state with two schools with Saban. All else even it makes it a huge disadvantage in this scenario




This rationale is why we know you dont understand this rivalry, just like you don't understand the basis of "Heisman moments" importance of winning he Heisman.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26953 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 4:05 pm to
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2. LSU


quote:

5- Bama


It would be nice if we already had a smaller sample to base a prediction on. Oh, I don't know, maybe 5 years at each school?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64461 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 4:09 pm to
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It would be nice if we already had a smaller sample to base a prediction on. Oh, I don't know, maybe 5 years at each school?

It would also be nice if, I don't know, you read the OP and understood what the thread was asking
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13360 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 4:09 pm to
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So if Saban is cloned and coached at each of the Big 6 schools at the same time, who has the best 10 year run?
They would all be average and probably lose to the lower schools alot. They would all be buying the top recruits and split the talent. Saban can't win without a big talent gap. There isn't enough 5 stars to go around.
This post was edited on 3/31/16 at 4:11 pm
Posted by Chill98
Member since Aug 2015
2151 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 4:16 pm to
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insecure Texans, A&M would be #2 on list if included



A&M is probably #4. The state is still wedded to the Big 12. Families are also more affluent and transient than those in other SEC West states.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26953 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 4:22 pm to
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It would also be nice if, I don't know, you read the OP and understood what the thread was asking


Duhhhh...given the fact that in all the situations mentioned, the coach isn't a variable, so it all comes down to all the other factors mentioned, and all five of Saban's 5 year periods at Alabama have been more successful than his only five year period at LSU. So yeah, there's some evidence to base a prediction on, even if a cloned Saban wasn't coaching at every other school. I'm sorry if that was confusing for you.
Posted by pete4tide
Alabama
Member since Dec 2010
102 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 4:24 pm to
OK - I accept your scenario.
What's the arrangement at each school? Does he get the same contractual agreement? Does he get full control of facilities, personnel, schedules, media appearances, boosters, etc., that Saban has at Bama? Because you can't measure the significance of the blank check he was given when he came to Bama in the beginning.
And a lot of that influenced his decision to leave L5U in the first place for Miami, and heavily influenced his decision to leave Miami for Bama.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 4:28 pm to
Florida and Texas A&M would benefit the most, IMO.
Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
Member since Aug 2013
12523 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 4:44 pm to
Saban or Saban clone or for that matter any head coach that worth his weight in dogshit would not make 10 yrs there.
Posted by dboyback
baton rouge
Member since Jul 2013
1579 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 4:53 pm to
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Just wondering - how exactly would the top 4 be better than what Alabama has done? Undefeated every season? SEC Title every season? 8 National Titles? All 32 first round picks? Is there something better than #1 in recruiting?








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I hate bama lol
Posted by TroyTider
Florida Panhandle
Member since Oct 2009
3760 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 4:56 pm to
During the last 25 years, history would favor Florida. Of the teams mentioned, even if you exclude their best coach during that period, Florida has enjoyed just a little more success than the others. Now I think Alabama would give them a heckuva run for their money each year. LSU Georgia Auburn and sooner or later, Tennessee, Would get back in the mixsomewhat.Probably in that order as well.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94841 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 5:25 pm to
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Duhhhh...given the fact that in all the situations mentioned, the coach isn't a variable, so it all comes down to all the other factors mentioned, and all five of Saban's 5 year periods at Alabama have been more successful than his only five year period at LSU. So yeah, there's some evidence to base a prediction on, even if a cloned Saban wasn't coaching at every other school. I'm sorry if that was confusing for you.


Sabans 1st and only 5 years at LSU

2 sec titles and 1 national title

Sabans 1st 5 years at Bama

1 Sec title and 2 national titles

That doesn't even take into context the improvement in him as a coach over the time span

So no, you are incorrect with the "facts" you thought you brought here
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94841 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 5:34 pm to
Let me break it down further for the inbreds

Sabans 1st year at both schools

Push. Both won lower tier bowls

Sabans 2nd year at both schools

LSU wins. Kiss the SEC title ring

Sabans 3rd year

Bama wins. National champs and sec champs

Sabans 4th year

LSU wins. National champs and sec champs

Sabans 5th year

Bama wins. National champs only

So LSU better twice
Bama better twice
Push one year

I don't even know why this head comes to this. The op should not have brought out anger in any fanbase.
Posted by amders44
Atlanta Metro
Member since Jun 2013
674 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 5:38 pm to
When Saban was hired at Bama some people were saying he would not have the same success he had while at LSU. I said are you kidding me, this is BAMA we are talking about. He will have much greater success and he has. Bama is the best football program in the SEC hands down and it would be number 1 in this scenario as well. Keep in mind before Bear got to Bama they were still the most successful program in the SEC, and what he did was ensure that as a program they would always be at the top. Sure they have had some dry spells, but no different than other schools. I truly believe that one of the main reasons for that is, Football is just a little more important at Bama than any other school.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64461 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 6:27 pm to
Then why did Alabama need Nick Saban, the best, to be the best? Alabama still needs a coaching advantage. On a level playing field with coaching, Alabama has not shown that they'll be better than everyone else. They have shown with saban they'll outspend everyone else to ensure he stays put. If you have coaching remain a constant for all schools, it really comes down to what school is in the best recruiting area with the least amount of competition. I think Georgia and Florida trump everyone.
Posted by Sid E Walker
InsecureU ©
Member since Nov 2013
23882 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 7:30 pm to
Bama Saban would beat the shite out of the other Big Five cloned Sabans. The system is in place, the process is rolling, and Bama Saban would have an uncatchable head start on the clones. Bama Saban would go 15-0, the clones would go anywhere from 12-1 to 9-4. These records include the bowl games against teams not named Utah and Oklahoma.
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
7864 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 9:16 pm to
Now your just being stupid and trying to piss LSU fans off. I applaud your effort though
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 10:29 pm to
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Saban can't win without a big talent gap



No one knows this you unemployed handicap, because he has always had more talent. Recruiting is an important, no the most important part of being a college coach.


What did you major in at Auburn? Sounds like cuckoldry if you ask me.
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