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re: If we go to a 9-game conference schedule, who do you want your three permanents to be?

Posted on 6/1/22 at 9:41 pm to
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 9:41 pm to
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You will get 1 from TX, 1 from MS, and probably Arky


If as reported, the league is broken into 8 “haves” and 8 “have nots”, this can’t happen. The 8 “haves” will have 2 permanent games against other “haves” and one against a “have not.” Dellinger is reporting the “haves” are: Bama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Oklahoma, A&M and Texas. So LSU can’t get a Mississippi school and Arkansas. And Alabama can’t get Tenner and Miss. St.
Posted by BranchDawg
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 9:45 pm to
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No more Vols?


We have way more history with South Carolina than we do with Tennessee. UGA and SC have played every year forever even when Carolina was an independent.

Georgia-Tennessee was actually a very rare SEC matchup until divisions were made. I think at one point they played like twice in 30 years despite sharing a conference.
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 9:47 pm
Posted by Dwight Schrute Reb
2022 CWS National Champs
Member since Jul 2020
818 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 9:48 pm to
LSU (I hate Billy Cannon)
Tennessee (I miss that yearly game)
Vandy (because why not?)
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 10:37 pm to
1. UGA (in Jax of course)
2. Aub or LSU
3. Vols
Posted by G&P
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2013
1981 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 10:50 pm to
My 3 and 6 Schedule Games played between each school/ Proximity

Alabama - Auburn *86, Mississippi State 106, Tennessee 104
Arkansas - Missouri 13, Texas 79, Oklahoma 15
Auburn - Alabama 86, Florida 84, Georgia 126
Florida - Auburn 84, Georgia 100, South Carolina 42
Georgia - Florida 100, Auburn 126, South Carolina 74
Kentucky - South Carolina 33, Tennessee 117, Vandy 94
LSU - Mississippi State 115, Ole Miss 115, Texas A&M 60
Mississippi State - Alabama 106, LSU 115, Ole Miss 118
Missouri - Arkansas 13, Oklahoma 96, Texas A&M 16
Oklahoma - Missouri 96, Texas 117, Arkansas 15
Ole Miss - LSU 115, Mississippi State 115, Vandy 90
South Carolina - Georgia 74, Kentucky 33, Florida 42
Texas - Oklahoma 117, Arkansas 79, Texas A&M 118
Texas A&M - LSU 60, Missouri 16, Texas 118
Tennessee - Alabama 104, Vandy 116, Kentucky 117
Vandy - Kentucky 94, Ole Miss 90, Tennessee 116,
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 10:51 pm to
No more UF/LSU?
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36114 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 12:24 am to
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as reported, the league is broken into 8 “haves” and 8 “have nots”, this can’t happen. The 8 “haves” will have 2 permanent games against other “haves” and one against a “have not.” Dellinger is reporting the “haves” are: Bama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Oklahoma, A&M and Texas


If this were really accurate it actually determines most of the logical opponents by inference. Because:

1. There are some must have rivalries (within both upper ( e.g Auburn & Georgia) and lower tier groups (e.g MSU & Ole Miss)
2. The bottom eight would have two bottom tier opponents and only one upper tier
3. Similarly the upper tier must have two upper tier and only one permanent lower tier.

The lower tier is pretty straightforward. You rapidly deduce:
Arkansas: Missouri, Tennessee, Texas
Kentucky: USC, MSU, Florida
Ole Miss: MSU, Vanderbilt, LSU
MSU: Ole Miss, Kentucky, Auburn
MU: Arkansas, USC, Oklahoma
USC: Kentucky, MU, Georgia
Tennessee: Vanderbilt, Arkansas, Alabama
Vanderbilt: Tennessee, Ole Miss, A&M

This is forced by the structure described above. Each of the weaker teams must have one stronger and two weaker. When you realize the associations between: Bama/Tennessee, LSU/OM, Texas/Arkansas, Oklahoma/Missouri, Georgia/USC, and Kentucky/Florida are there then MSU/Auburn, and Vanderbilt/A&M make the last two. We could flip USC/UGA and Kentucky/Florida but I don't care to get bogged down there.

From the lesser matches those are dictated first by history but secondly by deduction again. Arkansas/Missouri, Kentucky/USC, OM/MSU, Tenn/Vandy, Vandy/OM, and Kentucky/MSU leave Arkansas/Tennessee and Missouri/USC as the last two.

Now from the upper tier teams there are five teams that have some room for debate for their permanent major opponents: Alabama, Florida, LSU, Oklahoma, and A&M. I started out assuming LSU and A&M would be matched up but because that would leaves Oklahoma with a second major after Texas I am no longer sure.

Here are the two implied options:

One (more traditional)
Alabama: Auburn, LSU, Tennessee
Auburn: Alabama, Georgia, MSU
Florida: Georgia, LSU, Kentucky
Georgia: Auburn, Florida, USC
LSU: Alabama, Florida, Ole Miss
Oklahoma: Texas, A&M, Missouri
Texas: Oklahoma, A&M, Arkansas
A&M: Texas, Oklahoma, Vanderbilt

Now the problem this might pose would debatably be for LSU on Thanksgiving given that Arkansas and A&M are not on the schedule. That's not something that bothers me as a LSU fan since the Thanksgiving games have never been especially loved compared to the rest of the schedule. Recall again that LSU can't play Arkansas without sacrificing the Ole Miss rivalry and A&M has the longer Texas Thanksgiving tradition.

Two: unclear break with tradition
Alabama: Auburn, [-------], Tennessee
Auburn: Alabama, Georgia, MSU
Florida: Georgia, [-------], Kentucky
Georgia: Auburn, Florida, USC
LSU: A&M, [--------], Ole Miss
Oklahoma: Texas, [-------], Missouri
Texas: Oklahoma, A&M, Arkansas
A&M: Texas, LSU, Vanderbilt

If you don't slot in LSU against Alabama and Florida the described system may imply one of those two plays Oklahoma instead. At least given the supposed logical structure described.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 12:56 am to
LSU, Arkansas, Texas and I want the order they are played during the season to be LSU in early Sept, Ark in mid October, and whorn on either Thanksgiving or Saturday. Friday should be for the renewal of the LSU/Arkansas rivalry week game IMO.

If A&M doesn't get those three it's a complete failure by the league. When it comes down to it we don't give a shite about OU or Mizzou. That would be no different than making us continue our "rivalry" w/South Carolina.

This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 1:03 am
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
10052 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 12:58 am to
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Not obvious. Substitute MSU with LSU, and that would be more like it.


It is obvious for Alabama fans. There is no reason to put LSU over MS St.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14934 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 1:10 am to
Why do you think pods are the answer? Too many people have been complaining about their teams in their own pods and other teams in their pods. This is why two division is the best solution and there will be complaint, but there will be a lot less complaint. 9 SEC games. 7-2 that will get to play each teams in 4 years.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 1:31 am
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
4769 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 1:19 am to
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About as often as LSU historically.

Unless twice as often is “close” math isn’t your strong suit.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17185 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 1:47 am to
Kentucky - Tennessee, Vanderbilt, either South Carolina or Missouri.
Posted by Jake81
Member since Jul 2021
238 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 7:21 am to
1- Texas
2 - Arkansas
3 - Texas AM or Missouri

Posted by gamecockhub
Lexington, SC
Member since Sep 2017
366 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 7:47 am to
For us: UGA (obviously), Then a combo of Florida, Tennessee or Kentucky
Posted by vholley50
Midland City,Al
Member since Nov 2013
263 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:00 am to
LSU has never been a rival. There have been so very interesting games, but not a rival.
Posted by Island_Tiger73
DA BAYOU
Member since Aug 2016
896 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:10 am to
LSU/Bama - Bama 55-26-5
Moo State/Bama - Bama 86-17-3
Yeah, Moo State wins as often as LSU against Bama
Posted by kczoutiger
Member since Jul 2016
764 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:15 am to
Arkansas, Oklahoma, and 1 of Vandy/Kentucky/South Carolina is the most logical for Mizzou. I guess they could add Texas or Texas A&M but doubt it.

I guess they could give us Kentucky/South Carolina/Oklahoma. Either way, I like the 3-6 format for the conference. It will be very difficult for Mizzou to end up top 2 in that format, but the season will be far more entertaining as far as matchups.
Posted by rich4pres
Knoxville
Member since Dec 2016
9766 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:21 am to
Vandy
Kentucky
Missouri
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:53 am to
bama
UGA
UF

that would be my choice. we got screwed out of the UF rivalry. I would love to see that rekindled.
Posted by Monahans
Member since Sep 2019
1250 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:19 am to
The natural answer is OU, A&M, and Arkansas. But I really want an annual game with LSU just for the home and home.
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