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re: If SEC expands to 16 teams, what two teams would you pick?

Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:41 pm to
Posted by junior
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:41 pm to
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This would be HUGE for any expansion. We took Missouri because all of Missouri would be forced to pay into an SEC channel when it comes. With a la carte, Missouri was a waste. Also, Virginia and n Carolina become no more valuable than Clemson or fla st.
Texas and ND would be the 2 biggest teams out there.
Posted by Lordofwrath88
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 3:03 pm to
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UVA is a cherished academic institution. They should be a priority.



UVA is boring as shite compared to Va Tech.
Posted by Mootsman
Charlotte, NC
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 3:14 pm to
Wake Forest and Richmond
Posted by dstone12
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 3:29 pm to
I like you, I like you a lot maaan....
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This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 3:30 pm
Posted by CrazyTigerFan
Osaka
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 3:54 pm to
For "growing" the brand (in all sports as well as in academics)? UVA and UNC.

For "tradition" and rivalries and matchups I could visit in person? Georgia Tech and Tulane.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:11 pm to
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This would be HUGE for any expansion.


And it would ruin the financial models for cable companies and most of the channels on the market.

So there is 0% chance something will happen.

Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:27 pm to
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And it would ruin the financial models for cable companies and most of the channels on the market. So there is 0% chance something will happen.

So you're saying that consumer demand has zero influence on the marketplace.

Sadly, I'm afraid you're right.
Posted by MIZ_STL
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:28 pm to
A la carte cable is never happening.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:29 pm to
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A la carte cable is never happening.


Are you saying no one would actually choose to buy Jesus?
Posted by MIZ_STL
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:31 pm to
No one would choose to buy only the 5 channels they want a la carte when the whole cable package with 5,000 channels would be cheaper than the 5 a la carte channels.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:32 pm to
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I think Florida State for sure, but then am torn between Miami or Texas.



Put a worm on that hook next time.
Posted by MIZ_STL
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:33 pm to
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But rest assured, if you want to pay for your cable channels individually, you will end up paying a ton more. A report from Needham Insights issued last month suggested that 20 million viewers would pay $30 a month for ESPN, which would give the network the $600 million a month it needs to keep functioning, because that's what it makes today. That's right: you currently pay only $6 a month for ESPN, because you and 100 million other people have the network, and they can afford to take comparatively little from you. Let's say that factor of five holds true across all the networks you watch: suddenly you're paying $6.06 for TNT ($1.21 a month) $4.10 for Fox News ($0.82), and so on down the line. In fact, if you factor in only the top 10 most highly-compensated networks (and ESPN is by far the highest, so they're all south of that $6 figure), you're up to $78 with only ten channels.


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Posted by BoatSchoolTiger
Houston, TX
Member since May 2013
659 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:34 pm to
to anyone posted (almost) any ACC school they will not leave because Lacrosse. LAX is a money maker in this conference. SEC does not have it. Duke, UNC and UVA are always national contenders.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34337 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:47 pm to
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So you're saying that consumer demand has zero influence on the marketplace.



No, I am saying politicians won't force change in the market. Change will happen slowly, as consumers cut the cord and cable providers push back at channel price increases. Like Dish Network and ESPN:

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I think it will take more than 30 years for the model to fail though, and in that time the SEC Network will have made a ton a money. I think by the time the expansion emphasis changes from markets to program quality by then we will have 8 playoff spots with guaranteed seats for the Power 5 conferences so no one will move anywhere.

A FSU or Clemson in the SEC is simply a pipe dream.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:49 pm to
Florida State and Texas or Clemson
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:51 pm to
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you're up to $78 with only ten channels.

Cable doesn't have 10 channels that I want to watch. Maybe 4 during football season.

I had cable, I would regularly surf though 70+ channels and not find anything on. But it would take me a half hour so I figured I would scan through again and see what was on. Still nothing. Repeat. Still nothing. I called Cox and asked them if they could put TCM in their expanded basic package. They told me that it was a premium channel and they would never put it in a basic package but I could get it if I signed up for digital cable. I told them that I had just moved to BR from NO, and it was part of the basic package there. They told me, "No, it isn't." I cancelled my subscription.

I just use the antenna.

So 20 million would pay $30 for ESPN, but would 30 million pay $20?

I'd pay $20 for ESPN - during football season.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 5:01 pm to
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I'd pay $20 for ESPN - during football season.



If ESPN wasn't bundled they would charge way more than that (as you would have to get EVERY channel they offer).
Posted by MIZ_STL
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 5:04 pm to
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So 20 million would pay $30 for ESPN, but would 30 million pay $20?
Too bad 20 million wouldn't subscribe to ESPN, much less 30 million.

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Of the country's 100 million households, just 1.36 million viewers viewed ESPN in prime during the second quarter of 2013.
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Also, you'd pay $20 for ESPN. How much would you pay for ESPN 2, ESPN U, ESPN News, ESPN 3, ESPN the Ocho?
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 5:06 pm
Posted by GumpMaster&Commander
Member since Aug 2013
2248 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 5:13 pm to
The SEC should drop Vandy and Kentucky and go back to twelve teams.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30321 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 6:20 pm to
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The SEC should drop Vandy and Kentucky and go back to twelve teams.


Vandy beats Mizzou.....again, this year. We went out and got some more television viewers, but how did this move help the SEC brand?
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