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Linoge
Member since Jun 2013
1314 posts

If players become employees, why would they continue to be students?

I mean, why continue the charade of being students? If they unionize, then they are employees and should be treated as such. Having them do tests and school work at that point is silly. They are professionals in this situation.

For that matter, why would they still get only 4 years eligibility? Couldn't they keep playing indefinitely (if they aren't good enough for NFL but can still beat out younger players at the college level)?

I wonder if the public would lose interest over time if this happens. If they want to watch professional football then they would watch the NFL, not the minor league. The loss of amateur status may affect viewership more than you think.

Die hard fans on this site would continue to watch but gradually the casuals would fade away.



j1897
Arkansas Fan
Member since Nov 2011
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I wonder if the public would lose interest over time if this happens.


Absolutely. The NCAA is done


borotiger
Auburn Fan
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Member since Jan 2004
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The NCAA is done


And another that doesn't know what, or who, the NCAA is.


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kengel2
US Marine Corps Fan
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24454 posts

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If players become employees, why would they continue to be students?


If they are employees, they don't need scholarships.


TheWalrus
LSU Fan
Memphis
Member since Dec 2012
33519 posts

Just make their actual sport be their major, no less strenuous or useful than an actual sports admin degree


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momentoftruth87
Arkansas Fan
Member since Oct 2013
50978 posts

I still think it’s funny people are like, I went to an SEC school when it has nothing to do with their education or primary reason of why they are there.


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lsufball19
LSU Fan
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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If they are employees, they don't need scholarships.

So baseball gets full scholarships and men get to add sports like lacrossse, wrestling, soccer, etc.
This post was edited on 7/24 at 12:21 am


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rbtgoodson
Auburn Fan
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2019
264 posts

If this were to happen, I'd rather see them kicked out of school before everyone moves on to supporting the "actual" student-athletes. Seriously, who needs this nonsense?


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Dawgholio
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College football will be dead soon and all the greed from every side involved will kill it


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AUBTIG47
Auburn Fan
GoM
Member since Mar 2021
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Because there are only a small percentage who go pro in the NFL etc. The rest of them go pro in something other than sports. The piece of paper helps a lot in that regard.


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dirty bastard
Georgia Fan
Delacroix, Georgia
Member since Aug 2020
1725 posts

You are 100% correct. College football will be dead because of the greed on both sides. Sad but true.


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TideWarrior
Alabama Fan
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
9818 posts

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I mean, why continue the charade of being students? If they unionize, then they are employees and should be treated as such. Having them do tests and school work at that point is silly. They are professionals in this situation.


It would become a condition of their employment, so yes they would still be a student.


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coachcrisp
Alabama Fan
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
27472 posts

Great thread!!
The simpletons around here that can't see past their noses will just conjure up another "term" or change another rule to take care of it though.
These clowns either can't or want realize what the long term ramifications are from letting money enter the conversation regarding amateur athletics.


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SneezyBeltranIsHere
Texas Fan
Member since Jul 2021
619 posts

When I attended the University of Texas I had a job with Rec Sports. I checked IDs and assigned tennis courts. I was paid by the school, received a partial scholarship from the state and was still a student.

Athletes can be employees and students with scholarships. The only difference is these students are worth more, and will be paid more, than I ever was. I don't mind it. That is the market at work.

The biggest shock to me, the more I learn about SEC fans, is how most are Communists who hate capitalism and hate kids (especially poor kids) earning what they are worth. I bet you guys love Nancy Pelosi and all of the elitists who think it is fine for them to use the system to get rich but everyone else needs to stay poor.
This post was edited on 7/24 at 8:28 am


nicholastiger
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
30887 posts

Tv contracts can’t pay for everything
Costs will continue to go up
I’m not paying $500 per ticket when they pass the costs on to fans


BearCrocs
LSU Fan
Member since Aug 2013
4947 posts

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When I attended the University of Texas I had a job with Rec Sports. I checked IDs and assigned tennis courts. I was paid by the school, received a partial scholarship from the state and was still a student. Athletes can be employees and students with scholarships. The only difference is these students are worth more, and will be paid more, than I ever was. I don't mind it. That is the market at work. The biggest shock to me, the more I learn about SEC fans, is how most are Communists who hate capitalism and hate kids (especially poor kids) earning what they are worth. I bet you guys love Nancy Pelosi and all of the elitists who think it is fine for them to use the system to get rich but everyone else needs to stay poor.


You’re barking up the wrong tree. Fans aren’t getting rich off players. It’s the NIL wall the collectives are hiding behind. It’s pay for play, and now it looks like a student athlete can transfer at will to another school. Its not students that are athletes anymore.


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gamecockman12
South Carolina Fan
Columbia, SC
Member since Aug 2012
2884 posts

Greed will 100% kill college football. Unfortunately they will keep making it worse for fans and alumni who are the heartbeat of the sport. As a season ticket holder I'm already getting fed up with all of the changes.


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Smokeyone
Tennessee Fan
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
10226 posts

Make it a condition of employment


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bulletprooftiger
LSU Fan
Member since Aug 2006
1763 posts

I agree 100%. I’ve been making the exact same point on tiger rant for the last year. The UDFA’s and NFL practice squad guys are going to stay with “college” teams (but no reason they couldn’t join different teams than they started with). There will be true amateur college football teams filled with dudes who get more out of a college scholarship than the bottom tier money they’d get to play at the SEC/Big10 schools. It will be interesting to see what side Vanderbilt and Northwestern choose to be on.


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BLG
Alabama Fan
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
5951 posts

If NIL isn't regulated and enforced ( I think it will be) then I think major college football will fail.

The new SEC tv contract with ESPN, to begin in 2024, will pay each team apx 64 million per year. Unfortunately, expenses for each program are around 150 million per year. If it gets to the point that the vast majority of teams can't consitently compete then programs will lose a lot of money, and eventually drop out. There will be leagues of non scholarship teams, like The Ivy League.

If boosters aren't prevented from buying players, I see minor leage NFL in our future.

edit to note that minor leage NFL teams with players from the geographical regions would be fun to watch. It would retain a lot of what the colleges offer without the farce of being real students. Wouldn't even have to have state names. Instead of Florida Bobcats, Michigan Lakers, Arizona Antelopes, could just be Bobcats, Lakers, Antelopes, with teams of players from states in that general geographical region.
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