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If Ga Tech and Tulane never left the SEC ...
Posted on 1/7/20 at 7:24 am
Posted on 1/7/20 at 7:24 am
Terrible decision by both schools but, if they never left, what would the conference look like now?
Would Kramer have expanded in 90?
Would Slive have expanded in ‘12?
It’s possible expansion would have been delayed by years with far different additions.
If Tech had stayed they wouldn’t have fallen so far behind UGa and Tulane...well, they would have been Tulane.
Would Kramer have expanded in 90?
Would Slive have expanded in ‘12?
It’s possible expansion would have been delayed by years with far different additions.
If Tech had stayed they wouldn’t have fallen so far behind UGa and Tulane...well, they would have been Tulane.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 7:27 am to JohnnyU
We wouldn't be stuck with the Yankee SJWs
Posted on 1/7/20 at 7:27 am to JohnnyU
Georgia Tech wouldn’t have that national title in 1990.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 7:30 am to CapstoneGrad06
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Georgia Tech wouldn’t have that national title in 1990.
AP poll still doesnt think they have the national title in 1990.
Being unable to beat a 6 win UNC can have that effect on voters.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 7:32 am to JohnnyU
You would have to assume both would have funded the sport, which would probably be a no. They would be more like Vandy.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 7:47 am to JohnnyU
Only thing I would say is "unsure if TA&M or Mizz. would be members. As far as SC & Ark., I think they would be #'s 13 & 14".
Posted on 1/7/20 at 7:56 am to meansonny
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AP poll still doesnt think they have the national title in 1990. Being unable to beat a 6 win UNC can have that effect on voters.
Georgia Tech was the only undefeated team and beat Nebraska in their bowl to end the season by a score of 45-21. The UNC game was a tie.
The AP champion, Colorado, was 11-1-1 after a tie with Tennessee, a loss to Illinois, and a win on the famous 5th down against Missouri. Their bowl game victory was a controversial one point margin after a late call nullified a Notre Dame winning touchdown.
Due to bowl affiliations, Georgia Tech and Colorado were not matched against each other. The Big 8 champ was obligated to play in the Orange Bowl and the ACC champ in the Citrus Bowl.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 8:02 am to southernboisb
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unsure if TA&M or Mizz. would be members. As far as SC & Ark., I think they would be #'s 13 & 14".
Not necessarily. The 90s expansion was to get to 12 teams to split into divisions and play a Championship game. It wouldn’t have been necessary. The later expansion was when other conferences were excellent and realigning. The SEC could be as selective as they wanted. It almost assuredly eliminated Mizzou. It wouldn’t have been limited to the other three. My guess would be aTm and USCe because the Hogs would probably have gone B12.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 8:49 am to CapstoneGrad06
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Georgia Tech wouldn’t have that national title in 1990.
I wonder what GT football would look like. Being able to recruit players to Atlanta to play in the SEC seems like it would pull a ton of talent away from UGA. The reason GT left was because Bobby Dodd thought there wasn't an even playing field with Bama in recruiting. Had they hung on until the NCAA started monitoring recruiting more closely, they may have had a completely different trajectory.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 9:04 am to Ramblin Wreck
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Georgia Tech was the only undefeated team and beat Nebraska in their bowl to end the season by a score of 45-21. The UNC game was a tie.
The AP champion, Colorado, was 11-1-1 after a tie with Tennessee, a loss to Illinois, and a win on the famous 5th down against Missouri. Their bowl game victory was a controversial one point margin after a late call nullified a Notre Dame winning touchdown.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but Colorado also beat a top 5 ND while GT beat a #19 ranked Nebraska. That changes the optics in my opinion.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 9:04 am to JohnnyU
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If Ga Tech and Tulane never left the SEC ...
Things happen for a reason.
The sheep humping sister bangers are constantly kicking themselves in the arse for not leaving the A She She with us when they had the chance ... well, atleast until recently when they realized that playing their pussy assed schedule is advantageous to them in today's modern playoff system.
They're still poor though and once this new ABC deal is signed they'll really be behind the curve in terms of their overall athletic department.
Anyways, enough about the taterheads. If SC had not told the ACC to pound sand ... it causes me to shutter to even think about it.
Now the SEC has another Deep South Flagship Institution and that's the way it should be. Ga Tech and Tulane added nothing to the TV market and even less to fan support.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 9:25 am to scrooster
Bobby Dodd is a hero of mine for destroying tech on his way out.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 9:27 am to AUCE05
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You would have to assume both would have funded the sport, which would probably be a no. They would be more like Vandy.
just my opinion........Tulane would have an outstanding football program if they had stayed. Teen kids would love to live in New Orleans on Tulane's dime.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 9:37 am to AUCE05
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You would have to assume both would have funded the sport, which would probably be a no.
That's a lot of TV money pouting into both
schools and even Vandy is spending a good bit on their facilities.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 10:42 am to Ramblin Wreck
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Georgia Tech was the only undefeated team and beat Nebraska in their bowl to end the season by a score of 45-21. The UNC game was a tie.
The AP champion, Colorado, was 11-1-1 after a tie with Tennessee, a loss to Illinois, and a win on the famous 5th down against Missouri. Their bowl game victory was a controversial one point margin after a late call nullified a Notre Dame winning touchdown.
Due to bowl affiliations, Georgia Tech and Colorado were not matched against each other. The Big 8 champ was obligated to play in the Orange Bowl and the ACC champ in the Citrus Bowl
Damn your memory is horrible
GT was supposed to play Colorado, but the azzhole Orange Bowl Committee jumped the gun and guaranteed Noter Dumb that slot around Halloween, that chicken shyt move helped speed CFB towards the BCS because the individual Bowl Committees wouldn't fvcking act in the best interest of CFB and put together the proper matchups
Each Bowl Committee only gave a shyt about their Bowl's potential TV ratings
The Big8 Champ was obligated to play in the OB, but as ACC Champ GT could have gone anywhere except the Rose Bowl
We should have faced Colorado because we did earn that OB slot
Sometimes I wonder do my fellow GT Fans even follow CFB?
At that time only the Rose Bowl was locked up (Big10 v Pac10), every other Jan1 Bowl was only locked into 1 Conf Champ with the opponent being whoever created the best possible matchup
Posted on 1/7/20 at 10:48 am to scrooster
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Things happen for a reason.
In this case the reason was stupidity and short sighted leaders. Regardless, it changed the fortunes of at least three schools: UGa and at least two of the expansion programs.
Nebraska was foolish to leave the B12. They'll never be crap in the B1G.
Of the original 64 or so teams in the CFA, there are still less than 15 legitimate "power" teams. There's another 15 that may have the occasional great year but the rest are fodder to feed the big boys.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:46 am to PeeJayScammedGT
It was short lived, but the ACC was designated to appear in the Citrus Bowl, including 1990. There may have been discussions about the Orange Bowl, but I believe the ACC had a contractual obligation. 1990 was a strange year for football with basically no one surviving after moving to the #1 spot.
“From the 1987 season through the 1991 season, the bowl featured the Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC) champion against an at-large opponent. ACC teams were 3–2 during those games.”
“From the 1987 season through the 1991 season, the bowl featured the Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC) champion against an at-large opponent. ACC teams were 3–2 during those games.”
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:53 am to JohnnyU
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If Ga Tech and Tulane never left the SEC ...
Both still have more SEC championships than Kentucky and Mississippi State, with GA Tech only having one fewer than Ole Miss, despite both being out of the conference for over 50 years.
Ain't that some shite?
Edit to add: Would Tulane still have a winning record against Auburn?
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 1/7/20 at 12:08 pm to JohnnyU
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Not necessarily. The 90s expansion was to get to 12 teams to split into divisions and play a Championship game. It wouldn’t have been necessary. The later expansion was when other conferences were excellent and realigning. The SEC could be as selective as they wanted. It almost assuredly eliminated Mizzou. It wouldn’t have been limited to the other three. My guess would be aTm and USCe because the Hogs would probably have gone B12.
This is probably close to the truth.
With 12 teams, the SEC could have started a championship game in the 1980s. Who knows what a "Big 12" might have looked like in that scenario, if the SEC Championship game became lucrative. It could have just been an oddity or something that was abandoned after a few seasons, if UGA and LSU were sharing power and recruits in their home states with other SEC programs.
Arkansas leaving the SWC was what led to the creation of the Big 12. Texas was not interested in being pro-active. The SWC had to be blown up for them to consider change.
Also, the original SEC expansion was not necessarily planned to just "stop at 12 teams". When it was first being planned, they were talking about up to 14 teams back then.
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 12:09 pm
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