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I love smack talk like anyone else, but, missing spring practice.

Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:30 pm
Posted by MullenBoys
In the minds of Ole Miss fans
Member since Apr 2014
13673 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:30 pm
For players to have time to study Leach’s offense, I don’t see MSU doing a lot, even with a great QB who transferred over.

I see a 5-5 season at best despite what some of our irrational fans on this board say. Having said that, if MSU pulls an upset somewhere who would you say it’s against?

Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
18816 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:34 pm to
Vandy...
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14809 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:37 pm to
I do feel for y’all, because that offense won’t be what it would with a full spring.

However I think y’all knock off aTm.
Posted by megiddo
Member since May 2020
518 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:38 pm to
Leach's offense is extremely simple and doesn't require much study. The routes are as basic as it gets. The only thing it takes is practice, not study.

If I were to guess an upset though, I'd go with Georgia. Mostly because they're the most inept offense of the big teams so they might struggle to score on Miss St defense more than LSU/Bama/Auburn.
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 10:42 pm
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:38 pm to
I mean, everybody missed spring practice.

I don’t think MSU will be very good either, but only because Leach’s system sucks, not because he didn’t have enough time to install it.

You could upset Ole Miss though. It’s a rivalry game. Crazy stuff happens sometimes
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68508 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:39 pm to
Leach historically hasn't done very well his first 1-2 years so I wouldn't anticipate a solid season even if they had a good spring practice
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 10:42 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66518 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:42 pm to
I mean I don’t See y’all doing a lot Because you suck

But if it makes you feel better Leach’s offense isn’t supposed to be super easy to learn.
Posted by LouisvilleKat
Member since Oct 2016
18224 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:42 pm to
Assuming he's still running his own variations of the Hal Mumme offense it's super simple to install. Quite a lot of throws are predetermined to an area. Only question I would have is who's gonna catch em.
Posted by MullenBoys
In the minds of Ole Miss fans
Member since Apr 2014
13673 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:43 pm to
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I mean, everybody missed spring practice.


Yeah, but teams who retained a head coach, they already have a system. I think it hurts every team more who has to install a new system and no it’s not like you say that it’s just easy and the system sucks.
Posted by tOGLettuce
Out Yonder
Member since Aug 2015
1108 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:44 pm to
Your theory only works because he’s now playing in the SEC.

He would tale this roster, with this amount of practice time...and talent....and go win 6-7 games in the PAC 12 and Big 12.

He’s coaching better talent than he ever has...but it’s an easy call to get right...hence we play the number #1 #3 #4 #10 #12 ranked teams in the country.

Not sure he would win with the 85 bears. That argument is convenient.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:47 pm to
Air raid is actually a very simple concept. It's why he can score with any QB and WR group you give him.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
20868 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:47 pm to
quote:

Leach's offense is extremely simple and doesn't require much study. The routes are as basic as it gets. The only thing it takes is practice, not study


This. The true air raid is about executing the same 5 throws perfectly every time. I don't see how they can possibly do it with no spring and a new qb.
Posted by megiddo
Member since May 2020
518 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:48 pm to
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Leach historically hasn't done very well his first 1-2 years so I wouldn't anticipate a solid season even if they had a good spring practice

At Wazzu he had the same number of wins (9) in his first two years that the team had in the last four years before he was hired.

At Tech he had 7 wins each in his first two seasons, which is equal or better than all but 2 years out of Spike Dykes' 12 years history at Tech.

In other words, at both cases, he already showed solid results in the first two years relative to the coaches before him.
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 10:50 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64631 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:50 pm to
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He’s coaching better talent than he ever has

he's also playing against better talent than he ever has. He managed about 7 wins, on average, in the Pac12 and Big12. What makes you think he'll do better now that he's playing much more difficult teams week in and week out. This isn't exactly a Mullen situation where he was trying to win with Miss State level talent and then goes to a program like Florida in the same conference where he's facing the same talent but coaching better talent. Leach is what he is, a coach that will be consistently average to above average. If all he needed was more talent to win, he'd have had much more lucrative coaching offers by now.
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 10:52 pm
Posted by atrueamerican
New England
Member since Oct 2019
508 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:55 pm to
You're Mississippi St. You aren't winning 5 SEC games kid.

How many times has that school won 5 SEC games in a season in your lifetime? Once or something?
Posted by MullenBoys
In the minds of Ole Miss fans
Member since Apr 2014
13673 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:55 pm to
quote:

Air raid is actually a very simple concept. It's why he can score with any QB and WR group you give him.


Mullen had kinda a similar approach to a degree but he changed things for the better on offense.

My question is simple. For years and years MSU always had solid DL and LB’s on defense but an average secondary because we always had only one big standout player and because our offense was so bad teams ran up the score on us as the defense tired out.

A lot of Leach’s success will depend on his DC. We get talent on defense, maybe not the depth big programs get but if the offense can keep the defense off the field in a couple years them I do see big promise.
Posted by megiddo
Member since May 2020
518 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 11:19 pm to
I mean, Leach has already played SEC teams.

He played against #8 Alabama in the 2006 Cotton Bowl and lost by a score of 13-10.

He played against #2 Auburn in 2013 and lost by a score of 31-24 at Auburn.

The Washington State team was 6-7 in 2013. It wasn't a very good team. It only lost to the SEC Champion by 7 points.

The 2005 Texas Tech team was 9-3. It was a pretty good Tech team as it finished ranked #20. It only lost to #8 ranked Alabama by 3 points on a last second field goal.

Despite being far overmatched when it came to recruits and talent, Leach still was able to keep those games extremely close.
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 11:21 pm
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14934 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 11:22 pm to
quote:

You're Mississippi St. You aren't winning 5 SEC games kid.

How many times has that school won 5 SEC games in a season in your lifetime? Once or something?



Have a new and different HC can make a difference!
Posted by Bill Parker?
Member since Jan 2013
4472 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 11:29 pm to
I'm just here for the press conferences. Put a microphone in his face and that's almost as good as a win.
Posted by RebelTheBear
Saban's spare bedroom
Member since Aug 2016
5531 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 11:40 pm to
Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. Also, Texas Tech is located in one of the most fertile recruiting states in the entire country. He was not ever far overmatched in terms of recruits or talent while there. If anything, him not winning big games against the SEC while at Tech is indicative of his lack of big game coaching ability
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 11:41 pm
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