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re: I glad these kneelers where not at Normandy or Guadalcanal
Posted on 2/24/19 at 2:15 pm to themetalreb
Posted on 2/24/19 at 2:15 pm to themetalreb
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I love when the kneelers say they aren’t disrespecting the flag, military, America, etc...that’s just cute...hell, the “hate group” who marched in Oxford said they aren’t racists...words mean shite, actions mean everything...
I don’t care if they are disrespecting all of that. That is THEIR choice. Just like you have the freedom to wave a confederate flag if you want, they have the right to burn one if they want to. As long as yo are not causing harm to others, do whatever the frick you want. Why is this so hard to understand? All this “butthurt” shite over what other people do is just nonsense. Them kneeling in no way changes anything in your life.
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 2:20 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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So they're kneeling (exercising their 1st amendment right) to protest someone...exercising...their...1st...amendment...right
Yes. Two groups exercising their freedom of speech. As long as they aren’t committing acts of violence or destroying property, they are doing what they have every right to do.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 2:21 pm to Reservoir dawg
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Since only about 12-15 percent of millennials served in the military,
Not even close.
Only about 1% of ALL Americans serve...if that.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 2:21 pm to J2thaROC
You are correct...but they should still just call it what it is...they are purposely trying to disrespect the country because they feel the country is still actively wronging them...why want they just say that?
Posted on 2/24/19 at 2:28 pm to themetalreb
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You are correct...but they should still just call it what it is...they are purposely trying to disrespect the country because they feel the country is still actively wronging them...why want they just say that?
The same reason the white supremacists who wave the CONFEDERATE flag around won’t admit it.
Actually, that’s even worse. They are waving a flag of a country that openly attacked the United States. It’s basically chosing another country over the United States
This post was edited on 2/24/19 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 2/24/19 at 2:33 pm to J2thaROC
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Yes. Two groups exercising their freedom of speech. As long as they aren’t committing acts of violence or destroying property, they are doing what they have every right to do.
So you shouldn’t have a problem with Americans who think kneeling during the anthem is tacky. Everyone has an opinion and are free to voice it. A majority of us find it distasteful for a legitimate reason.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 2:36 pm to J2thaROC
As a former cop, this argument is not valid....just as many offenders of each race
Posted on 2/24/19 at 2:43 pm to J2thaROC
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Now how many young, black men are incarcerated for marijuana?
It’s less than young white men.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 2:46 pm to J2thaROC
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Who are you to tell others what to do? What gives you the right to dictate the actions of others?
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J2thaROC
Who the frick are you?
Posted on 2/24/19 at 3:13 pm to Reservoir dawg
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You do realize that these folks are the exception don't you? They make up a very small percent of the people you're posting about.
Would you like to know the percentage of military volunteers for every generation? I will warn you, it gets really ugly.
A very small percent of every generation, unless we are in a no shite life and death struggle for the very survival of this country, serve in the military.
So what do we compare this generation to? Are they bigger and fluffier snowflakes then the previous ones?
Because if you site willing to take a knee to protest something, rest assured... it will not take much effort to find something in the past that makes that gesture seem mild.
So far this new, and completely horrible, generation has mostly... started going to college.
You are right. frick 'em. They have not held a major political office. They have not been a CEO of a Fortune 500 company. Most of them are still trying to figure out who they want to ask to prom.
They are to blame for everything going wrong in this country. Because otherwise... its us.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 3:51 pm to Arksulli
[quote]J2thaROC[/quote. I suspect you're young, black, and feel like you've been oppressed during your time in this world.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 4:22 pm to Okie dokie
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Players kneeling have more to do with oppressive police state and racism
Posted on 2/24/19 at 4:45 pm to Arksulli
Only 1/3 of American males (frick you if you SJW up this post, that is the primary demographic) aged 17-24 are even physically and mentally qualified for service.
Add moral qualifications (criminal record, drug charges, single father, etc) and that number reduces to below 25% even before they set foot in MEPS.
Add moral qualifications (criminal record, drug charges, single father, etc) and that number reduces to below 25% even before they set foot in MEPS.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 4:45 pm to boot
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It’s less than young white men.
Depends how you look at it. If you countin sheer numbers, of course more whites go to jail then blacks in this country. But that’s cause there are far more whites in this country than blacks.
But if you go strictly by the accounts of arrests made verses the number of convictions and sentences to jail time, it ain’t even close. Black men, when caught with weed are far more likely to be sentenced to prison.
This is just one of many articles written about it
Rates of use vs arrest/conviction
There are many others that are easy to find.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 4:45 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Not even close.
Only about 1% of ALL Americans serve...if that.
But I didn't say all Americans, I said millennials, as a generation.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 4:47 pm to Arksulli
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Would you like to know the percentage of military volunteers for every generation? I will warn you, it gets really ugly.
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A very small percent of every generation, unless we are in a no shite life and death struggle for the very survival of this country, serve in the military.
Since we did away with the draft, the demand for recruits has been small to man a 1M man active military. It is not a reflection of our country or any generation. It is supply and demand.
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So what do we compare this generation to? Are they bigger and fluffier snowflakes then the previous ones?
The answer is yes. This generation has been educated via the internet. They are the generation that expects entitlements and the previous generations have been willing to give it to them. The Vietnam Generation was as fricked up as any that this country has produced. You had half of them "free loving" and protesting the U.S and the other half forced into fighting a War they didn't believe in. It took about 20 years, but eventually most of that group got their shite together. This generation has had things giving to them, have been told its not their fault and have been promised more handouts by politicians. I do not think 20 years can fix it.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 4:50 pm to boot
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So you shouldn’t have a problem with Americans who think kneeling during the anthem is tacky. Everyone has an opinion and are free to voice it. A majority of us find it distasteful for a legitimate reason.
You can say what you want, but to suggest that they should leave is just absurd.
And your reason is only legitimate to you.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 5:01 pm to Irons Puppet
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The answer is yes. This generation has been educated via the internet. They are the generation that expects entitlements and the previous generations have been willing to give it to them. The Vietnam Generation was as fricked up as any that this country has produced. You had half of them "free loving" and protesting the U.S and the other half forced into fighting a War they didn't believe in. It took about 20 years, but eventually most of that group got their shite together. This generation has had things giving to them, have been told its not their fault and have been promised more handouts by politicians. I do not think 20 years can fix it.
What generation are you from? No trolling here. What generation do you lay claim to?
Are you a Baby Boomer? Gen X? Millenial?
This generation had things given to them! By whom?
How much did they have given to them? Who gave it to them? What exactly has been given to them? Give me some numbers and site some scientific studies.
Have they been spoiled or do they, much like you, have different views then the generations that came before them?
Is your sole argument that they have been on the internet their entire lives and that makes them less worthy then we are? Because, I humbly offer to you, we are having this discussion on the Internet. You are rapidly closing in on 1300 posts to this forum alone.
You, sir, are no virgin when it comes to the Internet.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 5:09 pm to themetalreb
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I love when the kneelers say they aren’t disrespecting the flag, military, America, etc..
People need to stop equating kneeling during the National Anthem to disrespecting the military.
The National Anthem does not belong to the soldier, sailor, Airman or Marine any more than it belongs to any other American, whether a teacher, police officer, homeless citizen, or lawyer.
I serve—and have for a decade and a half—but I understand the oath to support and defend the Constitution is an oath of service...not a down payment of labor for future recognition in connection to national symbols. Simply, flag-related protests are not discrediting service members because the purpose of the National Anthem is not to honor us.
Optimistically, I hope that these young men understood the increased range that their message (of opposition to the outside agitators on Ole Miss’ campus) would receive by their chosen method of protest. Even if this was not their entire reasoning, it is fully within their rights to express themselves.
My military status doesn’t give me any greater opinion on the National Anthem than any other American’s opinion, but it gets really old having people feign outrage on my behalf.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 5:57 pm to J2thaROC
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You can say what you want, but to suggest that they should leave is just absurd. And your reason is only legitimate to you.
I’ve never suggested they leave. Maybe that they should stop attention whoring and look at the bigger picture, but not leave. There are a lot of advantages that minorities get in this country based on the color of their skin that just aren’t available anywhere else.
It’s not my fault that there’s more “street cred” for a young minority kid to deal weed than it is to take advantage of a minority scholarship and get a degree. Sounds like a personal problem to me.
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