re: How Would TCU Finish This Year If They Were In The SEC?

I have no response

quote:

---

Oklahoma is gonna beat bama in the college football playoff. Mark it down.

---

Texas is dickriding OU is that really what its come to?

Maybe because I lived in Texas and understand college football in Texas even back to SWC days that I always respected TCU.

The reason why is that the Horned Frogs was pushed out of the Big XII expansion by Baylor. Cougar High may have been the only school with a chance besides TCU because of the demise of SMU but TCU didn't whine and complain about being demoted.
TCU went into the WAC and won, Conference USA and won and the Mountain West Conference and won. They forced their way back into a Power conference because they let the play on the field speak for their university.


TCU should worry about SMU because SMU is much better than they have been and they want to bring you back down in a bad way.

quote:

---

TCU was left out because they had a huge lead against BU in Waco but could not close out the game.

---

Sure TCU would have advanced if they beat Baylor but that is not the point. TCU was ultimately dropped because they weren't a modern blueblood program. College football has become a big business where these things have a big influence over who gets to be champions and winners. This is also why TCU got overlooked in 2009 and 2010. There is always a convenient excuse to justify why they are not given the opportunity in lieu of some other blueblood but at the end of the day politics play a significant role in college football.

quote:

---

Maybe because I lived in Texas and understand college football in Texas even back to SWC days that I always respected TCU. The reason why is that the Horned Frogs was pushed out of the Big XII expansion by Baylor. Cougar High may have been the only school with a chance besides TCU because of the demise of SMU but TCU didn't whine and complain about being demoted. TCU went into the WAC and won, Conference USA and won and the Mountain West Conference and won. They forced their way back into a Power conference because they let the play on the field speak for their university. TCU should worry about SMU because SMU is much better than they have been and they want to bring you back down in a bad way.

---

You seem like good people. Nice talking with you. TCU should remain a strong program as long as GP is at the helm. After that, who knows with all the possibilities of conference realignments and successor coaches. I remember when TCU was terrible so these days are all a blessing. I actually would like to see SMU invest in their program in a serious way but I don't see it happening any time soon for various reasons. It is a shame because historically that was one of the better rivalries in the area.

quote:

---

Well, let's see. TCU hasn't beaten A&M in over 40 years so...

---

Arkansas fans were quoting a similar stat too from the SWC days. Everybody agrees TCU was weak in the 70s and 80s in football. The reality is TCU and A&M have played what once in the GP era which is now going on what 17 years and that was at the start of his coaching here. So your statistic is a pretty hollow one for looking at modern day comparisons.

Really, I have heard that A&M has been reluctant to schedule TCU because of fear of its effects on their recruiting in-state. In other sports like college baseball, TCU has done just fine against the Aggies in recent years. No reason to think it would be different in football. Again, much respect to Arkansas for setting up a home and home and playing the Frogs. Even LSU was decent enough to do a 1 game at Jerry World. Maybe the Aggies will have the courage to do the same someday.

quote:

---

Perhaps this is your first time on a college football message board but this is exactly the type of thing that we adults do often on football message boards. Someone proposes a hypothetical and then you have a parade of posts with some reasonable fans giving honest responses and others from some homer fans giving irrational posts.

Frankly, if you look at many of my other posts here where I don't ask a hypo, invariable I will have several posters turn it into this hypo: where they will speculate on where TCU would be in the SEC or where the conferences rank and so on. The only difference here is I ask the question after TCU played an SEC opponent.

Finally, nothing wrong with giving people a chance to get on the TCU bandwagon early.

---

No, you're just being needy, coming onto an SEC message board and asking questions about how much we like the horny toads. I'm sorry people aren't appreciating your program to the degree you desperately wish they would, but TCU is a flash-in-the-pan without any qualities that would draw the SEC's love. It's not your fault -- you live in a state with multiple big brothers overshadowing you -- but your hypotheticals are going to be worthless before long, when TCU goes back to obscurity. Frankly, looking at the list of B12 programs, "TCU" finishes behind "wherever Patterson decides to coach next" in the rankings of desirable programs.

TCU would better than a lot of people would expect, that's for sure.

They should've crushed Arkansas by more than the final score reflects. Ole Miss thought they were going to take care of business too, but they got absolutely mauled.

Patterson is an amazing coach. One of his idols is Nick Saban, and he uses Saban's ideology on toughness and grit. You'll hear him during the spring, talking about Nick Saban and Alabama. About how if you want to be like Alabama, you have to endure like Alabama. Be tough like Alabama. Be focused like Alabama.

Dude puts the Crimson Tide on a pedestal.

And though he doesn't get the star players, his squads typically hit harder than anyone in the conference. His philosophy is to out-tough the other team. In most cases, they do. Even if they lose.

Not really. TCU ran it down Arkansas' throat. Had far more rushing attempts and went 200 yards on the ground.