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re: How Would TCU Finish This Year If They Were In The SEC?

Posted on 9/12/17 at 12:00 pm to
Posted by Not Afraid of Bama
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 9/12/17 at 12:00 pm to
The current issue is that most FBS Texas universities will not schedule Aggy. Aggy can play SFA, Lamar or Sam Houston I guess but even UTSA and SWT (Texas St) will not play Aggy because the plan to neutralize SEC influence in Texas is working as Aggy may be a 2 or 3 win team in 2017.
If SEC universities continue to poach players then all Texas universities are affected.
Like I have said the 100 year decision was an emotional based reaction to the LHN and Aggy was and still is not going to be able to overcome being ostracized by Texas.
This post was edited on 9/12/17 at 12:01 pm
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54630 posts
Posted on 9/12/17 at 12:05 pm to
I know you are pumped about beating the Hogs but in the SEC, everybody beats the Hogs. Also, Bert is fat and we all know it. Enjoy your win but if you were in the west this year at best you would beat the Hogs and TAMU.

Alabama, Auburn, and LSU would run train on you
tLandmass would probably beat you as well, just would be closer

Big 12 schools that could compete in the SEC west
#1 Oklahoma, probably below the Big 3
#2 Kansas State, because the wizard is one crafty bastard




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Finally, if you could trade out a team in the SEC and take one from the Big12, who would it be?


I like coach of KSU and the fans of ISU but not enough to trade the noobs for as we like hazing them. KU would give the SEC some more basketball cred but not enough to trade any team we already had.

Face it, austin is toxic and you guys are stuck there with all the other children unable to break away the last realignment. Thought the Sooners had more sense but they seem destined to stay like those with Battered Wife Syndrome.
Posted by Not Afraid of Bama
Member since Sep 2017
71 posts
Posted on 9/12/17 at 12:13 pm to
What so toxic about allowing universities to control their third rights.
This means a school can put their product on an open market. Ask West Virginia how they feel about having more money than their ACC counterparts. I believe only university in their region that will bring home more once they receive a full share will be Maryland who is in the BIG.

David Boren, OU president, said that if OU will realign conferences it will be because of academic reasons plus Oklahoma's connection with California.
OU and Boren knows they have a market in California as a lot of cities in California's Central Valley have what they call Okievilles. Even in forms of speech these Californians who left Oklahoma 80 years ago have maintained a connection with the state.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80027 posts
Posted on 9/12/17 at 12:17 pm to
Awesome alter Randolph Duke.
Posted by Not Afraid of Bama
Member since Sep 2017
71 posts
Posted on 9/12/17 at 12:24 pm to
Didn't you see it so fitting that a PAC 12 school was the one who bursted your bubble.
Talk about irony.
We all could be in the PAC 16 right now making more money than any other conference but Aggy's stupidity got in the way.
UT, OU and the PAC 12 will move on but will Aggy.
This post was edited on 9/12/17 at 12:25 pm
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 9/12/17 at 12:25 pm to
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What so toxic about allowing universities to control their third rights.


Nothing

Alabama, Kentucky, and Ohio State all control their Tier III

However all 3 are smart enough to pool their Tier I (major networks) and Tier II (conference networks) to enhance their Tier III (school controlled). Where the other four P5's figured out early is multiple schools limit the down when the primary schools are in down cycles. If you have say a 12 team conference (which allied a CCG) then you need 3 alpha schools so 1 will carry the load in any given year.

Alabama and Kentucky (both now JMI if memory serves) both pull in about 15 million per year in their Tier III but as conference leaders knew taking a bit less on Tier I and Tier II for the conference smoothed out their cash flows. Big point was they gave up the ego issues of there singular for the cash flows of the many. Much smarter long term except you have to keep the ego in check, austin and to some extent norman, never got this.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80027 posts
Posted on 9/12/17 at 12:30 pm to
Have fun with 10:30pm Eastern kickoffs that no one watches.
Posted by Not Afraid of Bama
Member since Sep 2017
71 posts
Posted on 9/12/17 at 12:33 pm to
This has already proven to be untrue as more than half of the PAC 12 games are scheduled the same time as games with other conferences.

Posted by Not Afraid of Bama
Member since Sep 2017
71 posts
Posted on 9/12/17 at 12:42 pm to
Problem with the SEC is that they are locked into their deal with ESPN/ABC.
OU and UT would lose money if they joined the SEC and now the ACC.
The third tier rights you speak of is not media rights unless of course if I am wrong I believe the SEC network controls all football games not televised on ESPN/ABC or CBS.
Are other SEC games televised on other media outlets
Posted by TCUFan
Member since Jul 2011
343 posts
Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:01 pm to
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This has already proven to be untrue as more than half of the PAC 12 games are scheduled the same time as games with other conferences.


I doo't think that gentlemen is overly concerned about the truth of things. He seems to prefer hollow narratives that support his preconceived conclusions. Which is fine because every fan base has them.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:03 pm to
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because the plan to neutralize SEC influence in Texas is working as Aggy may be a 2 or 3 win team in 2017.


Ya, that is the reason A&M is doing bad this year
Posted by Not Afraid of Bama
Member since Sep 2017
71 posts
Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:10 pm to
I do think you understand what Aggy did after moving to the SEC. They pretty much mortgaged their future on the move. I give them credit for doing so because it took balls but nevertheless it was shortsighted because they should have waited until they had a stable football program before the move.

The pressure Sumlin is under is because Aggy understands that their chance to grasp control of Texas is narrowing and may have shut already.
Posted by Not Afraid of Bama
Member since Sep 2017
71 posts
Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:16 pm to
All Texas universities desire the same thing.
TCU at one time was the best football program in Texas. The Aggy/TCU rivalry was the biggest game in the state. Hence the reason for Gig em.
The difference is through everything Texas universities stick together. Aggy seemed to think that leaving the state was their best opportunity.
By leaving the state they said that Aggy was more important than Texas. The state of Texas is more important than any of our universities.
This post was edited on 9/12/17 at 1:17 pm
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:18 pm to
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The difference is through everything Texas universities stick together.


Well except Texas and Texas A&M
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80027 posts
Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:21 pm to
Half of the PAC 12 games this week start at 8:00 Eastern or later.
Posted by Not Afraid of Bama
Member since Sep 2017
71 posts
Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:24 pm to
If Texas joins the PAC 12 it will be because of what a connection with the top 4 research universities will bring the state of Texas.
Aggy joining the SEC did not bring any future industry to Texas. It is a decision based on sports.
UT's, if they joined the PAC 12, decision will be based on growing the tech sector in Texas and bringing more high paying jobs to the state.

UT's wants the state of Texas to be the greatest state in the country. This is competing with California.
This post was edited on 9/12/17 at 1:25 pm
Posted by Not Afraid of Bama
Member since Sep 2017
71 posts
Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:31 pm to
8 pm Eastern is 7 Central and that is prime time Television.

6 PAC 12 games start before 730 Central.

4 start after 730 Central
This post was edited on 9/12/17 at 1:33 pm
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:34 pm to
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If Texas joins the PAC 12


But they would never do that, only A&M pull such a horrible move.
Posted by Not Afraid of Bama
Member since Sep 2017
71 posts
Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:41 pm to
This is the issue here with the move.
Texas Ex's vs t shirt fan

Nevertheless there are more positive then negatives
1) PAC 12 owns its own network. The payout is not determined by ESPN or FOX
2) The growth of the SunBelt to the decline in the Rust Belt
3) Reaearch money in future industries
4) California vs Texas
5) The change in Texas' identity. Will Texas be forever linked to the South or will Texas be considered a Western state. I grew up in west Texas and lived in south Texas and found my lifestyle from where I grew up and lived to be more in common with the Western states than the Southern states.

The pacific states are very rural and like Texas once you get outside of th huge cities look and act very much like Texas and Oklahoma.
This post was edited on 9/12/17 at 1:42 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 9/12/17 at 2:00 pm to
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7-1 in the East

2-6 in the West


When did the SEC expand the number of teams?
This post was edited on 9/12/17 at 2:01 pm
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