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re: How the conference covid protocol rules affect the A&M game. Here are the actual numbers.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:23 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:23 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
They are not interested in science, the impacts of the protocols on timing or any type of nuances in the discussion. They are a pretty simple groups of people.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:24 pm to Hugh McElroy
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It's not about being sick. It's about the conference contact tracing rules.
So thats what you going with? Contact tracing? You a goofball...
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:26 pm to AgsNguyening
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They are not interested in science, the impacts of the protocols on timing or any type of nuances in the discussion
the “science” of arbitrarily assigning number of days quarantined? y’all are a joke of a program
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:26 pm to Wellborn
quote:100% guaranteed IF aTm was in the CFP and scheduled to play in the Cotton Bowl on 12/31 we wouldn't even be having this conversation today.
Should A&M have gambled and waited until the night before, once everyone had already traveled?
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:27 pm to Eighteen
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the “science” of arbitrarily assigning number of days quarantined?
Another rantard not reading the entire sentence before responding.
"the impacts of the protocols"
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:28 pm to Hugh McElroy
frick that noise. I played both ways my entire career. Get them on the field
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:28 pm to RT1941
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100% guaranteed IF aTm was in the CFP and scheduled to play in the Cotton Bowl on 12/31 we wouldn't even be having this conversation today.
Don't be so sure. Based on what the CFP just released today, we may not have a playoff.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:28 pm to ColoradoAg
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I'm disappointed. Wanted to see if our backups could beat Wake ...
Who do yoou think y'all are??
Wake Forest is your equal in football. That's why you are in the same bowl...
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:28 pm to AgsNguyening
quote:100% guaranteed IF aTm was in the CFP and scheduled to play in the Cotton Bowl on 12/31 we wouldn't even be having this conversation today.
They are not interested in science, the impacts of the protocols on timing or any type of nuances in the discussion. They are a pretty simple groups of people.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:29 pm to Hugh McElroy
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Hugh McElroy
I'm sorry, I read that whole thing but all I kept hearing was....
Blah blah blah
At least you can always think back to the way your guys put a stamp on this season. They came to Tiger stadium and finished strong. The lasting memory of the 2021 Aggies will live on forever.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:30 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
quote:That decision would be the CFP making that decision, not one school would choose to lay down and QUIT.
Don't be so sure. Based on what the CFP just released today, we may not have a playoff.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:31 pm to Hugh McElroy
I don't think Wake Forest has more than 38 people in the whole school.
Don't you have any walk-ons?
Don't you have any walk-ons?
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:31 pm to RT1941
You have to be symptomatic to even be tested. The odds of enough guys both getting it AND being symptomatic enough to need a test to have to forfeit a game is very, very slim.
The bigger threat is a very important player has symptoms and has to test, and my guess is they'd have to be pretty overtly symptomatic to be tested.
The bigger threat is a very important player has symptoms and has to test, and my guess is they'd have to be pretty overtly symptomatic to be tested.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:32 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Travel roster is limited to 70. That includes bowl games.
Incorrect. Travel roster sizes are mandated by the conferences, not the NCAA. For SEC games, the travel roster is limited to 70 players, and only 80 may participate for the home team in conference games. This also applies to neutral site games, but teams are limited to one neutral site game per season (bowl games not included). Those restrictions are not applicable to non-conference games or bowl games. Bowl games don't have roster size restrictions. With respect to postseason rosters, bowl games aren't mandated by the NCAA like they are with other postseasons they do govern nor are they governed by conference rules.
Here is the SEC rule
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The home team may dress all eligible student-athletes in uniform, but only 80 student-athletes may participate in a Conference contest. (The non-participating student-athletes shall dress out at no additional cost to the institution. Nonparticipating student-athletes shall not receive pre-game meals, overnight lodging or additional game tickets, but may receive a post-game meal provided the post-game meal is served at the stadium. No cash stipend may be provided to non-participating student-athletes for post-game meals away from the stadium.) The visiting team is limited to a travel squad size of 70 eligible student-athletes. The squad size limit for neutral site games (no more than one game annually) is 70 eligible student-athletes for both participating teams.
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:33 pm to RT1941
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100% guaranteed IF aTm was in the CFP and scheduled to play in the Cotton Bowl on 12/31 we wouldn't even be having this conversation today.
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The following are the policies for the Cotton Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, Orange Bowl and Peach Bowl if an institution determines that it is unable to compete in the game because an insufficient number of athletes are available to play because of COVID-19.
1. Fiesta and Peach Bowls – The CFP, bowl game and ESPN shall attempt to identify an alternate date for the game within one week of the scheduled date; if no date can be identified, the game would be considered no contest.
2. Playoff Semifinals (Cotton and Orange Bowls) if one team is unavailable to play – The unavailable team shall forfeit the game and its opponent would advance to the national championship game.
3. Playoff Semifinals (Cotton and Orange Bowls) if both teams are unavailable to play in one semifinal – The semifinal game would be declared "no contest" and the team winning the other semifinal game would be declared the CFP National Champion.
4. Playoff Semifinals (Cotton and Orange Bowls) if three teams are unavailable to play – The semifinal game in which two teams are unable to play would be declared "no contest." In the other semifinal game, the team unable to play shall forfeit the game and its opponent would be declared CFP National Champion.
5. CFP National Championship – If the team's unavailability is determined after the Playoff Semifinals have been conducted, the national championship game in Indianapolis may be rescheduled to no later than Friday, January 14. If one team is able to play and the other is not and the game cannot be rescheduled or is rescheduled and cannot be played, then the team unable to play shall forfeit the game and the other team shall be declared CFP National Champion. If both teams are unable to play on either an original or rescheduled date, then the game shall be declared "no contest" and the CFP National Championship shall be vacated for this season.
Following are other policies that shall be in place for this year's games:
A. Teams' travel to bowl sites – Teams have the option to arrive at the bowl site not later than two days before the game, rather than the customary five days before the game. (For example, not later than Wednesday before a Friday game.)
B. Bowl events – Attendance at events at the game sites will be optional for student-athletes, institutions' staff members, bands and spirit squads.
C. News conferences – Media access to coaches, staff and student-athletes will be virtual.
D. Access to the playing field – Non-essential personnel will not have access to the field and sidelines pre- and post-game. (For clarity, this includes, but is not limited to, institutions' friends and family and bowls' "special guests" and sponsors.)
E. Testing arrangement. Each institution will use the testing arrangement that it used during the regular season. The institution will arrange for testing at the game site.
F.Acceptance of opponent's protocol. Each conference has agreed to accept each other conference's testing protocol.
G. Certification. The director of athletics and the institution's chief medical officer must certify that each person with access to the playing field on game day has tested negative for COVID-19 within 72 hours of the kickoff or has been fully vaccinated.
H. Health and Safety. To provide the best chance of health and safety, the participating institutions are encouraged to ensure that student-athletes and staff take prudent measures and follow medical recommendations to help prevent the contraction or transmission of COVID before, during and after they travel to the game sites.
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so... if we were in the Fiesta, Peach, or championship game we could push back a week. If we were in first round of the playoff we'd have to cancel.
at these COVID protocols
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:34 pm to Hugh McElroy
We get it. Texas A&M did not want to play this game, so they manipulated COVID protocols and practices to justify that outcome. I guarantee that Texas A&M would not be having these issues if they were in the playoffs in nine days.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:37 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Hell I bet none are too sick to play tomorrow, much less 9 days
That's the point of the thread.
None are too sick to play, but the conference protocols make it so.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:38 pm to Dr RC
Again, this all relies on testing vaccinated people who are symptomatic. If your team is fully vaccinated, you are only getting tested if you show "symptoms".
The odds of that happening at a level to need forfeit are slim and none. The protocols are window dressing - none of these teams are going to have 20+ guys with symptons that require them to test if the entire team is vaxed. No shot.
The odds of that happening at a level to need forfeit are slim and none. The protocols are window dressing - none of these teams are going to have 20+ guys with symptons that require them to test if the entire team is vaxed. No shot.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:50 pm to Hugh McElroy
Who cares about scholarship players? Play the fricking game you losers.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:55 pm to Hugh McElroy
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The Aggies are currently without 42 scholarship players out due to Covid, opt outs/NFL, season-ending injury and transfers.
list the number for opt outs, injuries and transfers...and how does that compare to other bowl teams
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