re: How long do you think it will take SEC coaches to figure out how to stop A&M?

Keep hoping and praying Hogs. You are gonna get flat out destroyed at home next year.

just wanted to put this here

your offensive coordinator thinks he is a member of emblem 3

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that was early in the season. LSU has done the best job.

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guess what, it was early in the season for UF too and we had no previous game tape to gameplan with either, but after 30-mins of a&m having their way NOBODY has shut a&m down the way we did in the 2nd half.(65 total yds, 3 1st downs, and 0 point)

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guess what, it was early in the season for UF too

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I don't think anyone is saying UF didn't do a great job shutting them down in the second half. What they are saying is that if we played again next weekend, A&M would steamroll the gators once you consider A&M is vastly improved since then and the craptastic way UF has played the last 3 games.

Florida was more effective than LSU. It might have been a different outcome if it wasn't our first game of the year. However, Florida did manage to beat us without us giving them 5 turnovers and our kicker leaving 7 points off the board

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Stopping A&M's offense isn't about scheme it's about skill, just like stopping Oregon's offense. LSU and Florida already showed how to do it, have really fast DE's. Manziel killed Bama by extending plays with his legs way more than the A&M scheme did. Against LSU when he tried that Sam and Kiki were right on his tail and he threw tow costly picks by trying to throw on the run under pressure. You stop him the same way you stop Tebow, make him beat you on down the field throws in the pocket

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It's comments like these that just crack me up and show just how little you guys paid attention in the game. For instance, against LSU the above describes one pick by Manziel that really was more of a bad read than anything where he tried to force a throw. His other 2 picks? One hit his receiver in the chest and it bounced off. The other was a timing route with his WR who went the wrong way. That doesn't even count the multiple bad reads by Manziel in the game where he missed open receivers, chose bad running lanes, or just made bad decisions.

The UF stuff is just laughable. He didn't even make a single deep throw in that game and he was clearly confused in the 2nd half. He was as green as green could be and it showed.

The best thing that all 3 teams did to figure out the A&M O was to figure out the A&M D. In all 3 games they struggled offensively against A&M early and as the game wore on were able to score points and extend drives and thus take the ball out of JFF's hands.

LSU and UF absolutely deserve props for beating A&M but if you honestly think that was Manziel's "best shot" and he won't correct those problems you are delusional. He is getting better and better at understanding this offense and the talent continues to improve around him.

The truth is guys it doesn't matter what the offensive or defensive scheme is. Not really. What matters is the talent behind it. A&M has good front line talent right now but not good depth. That is going to change in the next couple of years and change dramatically. Once A&M has equal talent at every position plus the depth behind it that Bama, LSU, and UF have watch out. A&M plays a physical and fast offense that isn't a gimmick. It just does a lot of things well. Beyond that defense is really the key. If A&M can continue to improve defensively then the rest is academic. Spurrier's offense got the pub at UF but his defense won titles for him. Same with Meyer.

Keep on telling yourselves though that A&M's offense is a cute little toy that will be crushed by the mighty SEC defenses. It's kind of like how A&M can't compete in the SEC and it will take years before they will have a chance of beating a team like Bama. Good luck with that.

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I don't see how Aggies fans are so quick to dismiss the TOs vs us. The first two possessions it was like we weren't even on the field. Afterwards, seemed like A&M never adjusted to our changes. It seemed like we forced JF to play outside his comfort zone from then on.

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I'd dismiss two. One was a perfect throw that hit our receiver in the chest, no LSU defender within 3 yards, and he popped it up like he was playing beach volleyball. If he makes that routine catch, we're on the 25 and theoretically in FG range (though I'm sure our crap kicker would have missed that one too). The other TO I'll mention was on the final play when we were doing the hook and ladder & lateral crap. You eventually jumped on the loose ball. Yay. You guys forced the other ones, though. I will say, however, that it's dumb to think that a fish can't learn from those bad mistakes and assume those will always happen when playing us (look at the decisions and throws Manziel made against Bama for an example).

Disclaimer: I'm solely talking offensive scheme here. Not trying to get into a "we shoulda won, we're better!" moral victory pissing contest. So if 1) we had a kicker worth a damn and 2) we hadn't popped that ball into the air, we would have finished with 29 points or 26 if you don't want to give us that long missed FG. Either way, that would have been the most points you've given up this season. That's not a bunch of whacky hypos. It's correcting a few minor execution errors, both of which were by fish (kicker + WR).

29 points isn't an offensive explosion, but 1) you guys are really fricking good on defense, so 29 is pretty good offensive production and 2) it should be enough to win a SEC game at home, provided the defense doesn't totally shite the bed.