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re: How is Mississippi State not ranked In the new AP or coaches poll?

Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:36 am to
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33042 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:36 am to
They are 6-4, right?
Posted by cbi8
Nashville
Member since Mar 2012
6801 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:39 am to
Won’t matter cause we’ll lose the egg bowl.

Anybody ever think about why there is a top 25? Why 25 and not 10 or even 30? Are you high right now? Do you ever get nervous?
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21355 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:52 am to
They should have left it at top 20. If we want Sunbelt teams to be ranked then by all means expand and further dilute what it was meant to be.
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
9435 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:04 am to
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A ranking should be based on how good a team currently is, not their record for the year. 

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Based on this, Kansas should be top 10 and Samford should be ranked.



These are not good examples of the point you are trying to make.
Posted by OU_Fan
Fort Riley
Member since Dec 2014
763 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:11 am to
Kansas State (7-3) deserves to be in the top 25 more so than Mississippi State. Wooped a Stanford team who beat #3 Oregon.

Just like Oklahoma State has the better win (Baylor) than does Michigan and should be ranked higher, but bias will kick in on Tuesday like always.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21355 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:22 am to
They deserve it more than the G5 schools. Bias has always had a lot to do with the rankings.
Posted by PorkDawg
Texas
Member since Feb 2019
5074 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:26 am to
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Based on this, Kansas should be top 10 and Samford should be ranked.


You think wins over Texas and Florida warrant a top 10 ranking?? Uh no.
Posted by PorkDawg
Texas
Member since Feb 2019
5074 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:28 am to
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However, even with 4 losses do you honestly believe a 4 loss team deserves to be in the top 15 with two games left? because what y'all are getting so upset about is my saying MState is not a top 15 team.


Based on current team, they’re top 20. They may not be ranked there, but no one in the top 25 has better wins.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32325 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:28 am to
We probably will be with the one that matters; as will Arkansas. We'll find out tomorrow night. Not that it's a playoff question but I think bowl hierarchy plays into the playoff rankings. We were 16 prior to pooping the nest against Arkansas.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58924 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:30 am to
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If they win out then yes. It is a better argument than putting teams like San Diego State and Louisiana Lafayette over them when they played a joke of a schedule.




Hey. You can feel that way if you want. I just don't see them jumping Iowa, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Pittsburgh, or Wisconsin.

I mean, I get that you might not like UTSA in the top 15, but that doesn't mean MState should jump everybody else.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58924 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:38 am to
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Based on current team, they’re top 20


Your team RIGHT NOW? What does this mean. based off one game? The last 2 games? Three games? Four?
What does the "team right now" mean? maybe we should establish that before we go any further, so we know exactly what the parameters are.
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They may not be ranked there, but no one in the top 25 has better wins.
But that is not what we are arguing. Go back and read....THEN chime in. Because I said Mississippi State did not deserve to be a top 15 team. THAT was what the post I responded to said and now you want to change it to top 25?
Posted by PorkDawg
Texas
Member since Feb 2019
5074 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:39 am to
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Hey. You can feel that way if you want. I just don't see them jumping Iowa, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Pittsburgh, or Wisconsin. I mean, I get that you might not like UTSA in the top 15, but that doesn't mean MState should jump everybody else.


I do. A&M is the only team on that list you mentioned that beat anyone with a pulse besides Arkansas, that narrowly beat State at home. At worst Arkansas and State should be right next to each other.
Posted by megiddo
Member since May 2020
518 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:55 am to
Stanford is a 3-7 team. That's a bad loss for Oregon, not a good win for Kansas State.

Meanwhile Mississippi State has wins over NC State, Auburn, TX A&M, and Kentucky, all teams that are far superior to the teams Kansas State has victories over.

Please don't embarrass yourself and make Big 12 fans look dumb with such a stupid post.
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 11:57 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58924 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 12:08 pm to
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I do. A&M is the only team on that list you mentioned that beat anyone with a pulse besides Arkansas, that narrowly beat State at home. At worst Arkansas and State should be right next to each other.




Y'all are bouncing all over the place. What does "team right now" mean? You want us not to judge MState by their record, but based on the team right now. So what does that mean, first. Then we can compare and see who matches up and who does not.

Ste some parameters and refuse to budge from them. Let's not start moving goal posts all over creation.

You can set the parameters.
Name the top 15 teams in your mind.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58924 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 12:12 pm to
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Meanwhile Mississippi State has wins over NC State, Auburn, TX A&M, and Kentucky, all teams that are far superior to the teams Kansas State has victories over.



You count a win over a 4 loss (possibly 5 loss) Auburn team a good win?
Then you want to ignore a 1 point win over Louisiana Tech and a loss to Memphis and a loss to LSU?

Y'all don't like UTSA being ranked in the top 15 but you beat Louisiana Tech by 1 and lost to Memphis and LSU. At least TRY to be objective.
Posted by megiddo
Member since May 2020
518 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 12:16 pm to
If you're going to quote me, then actually refute what I said. What team has Kansas State beaten that is better than NC State, Auburn, TX A&M, or Kentucky?

Here is the list of teams Kansas State has beaten: Stanford, Southern Illinois, Nevada, Texas Tech, TCU, Kansas, West Virginia.

Please learn the fricking basics of message boards like the quote function and don't jump on your own fricking tangent like a 5-year old.
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 12:18 pm
Posted by Hardy_Har
MS
Member since Nov 2012
16285 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 12:19 pm to
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Marc Curles strikes again


This.

The Memphis L was an in game abortion. Outright losing to what LSU fielded as a team this year was way worse.
Posted by Godawgs4
Member since Aug 2016
4303 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 12:25 pm to
We have lost 4 games - two of which were to two bad teams (Memphis and LSWHO).

So that is why we are not ranked. But we can rectify that by continuing to win.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58924 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 12:32 pm to
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If you're going to quote me, then actually refute what I said. What team has Kansas State beaten that is better than NC State, Auburn, TX A&M, or Kentucky?


It's the losses that will kill you. Not their wins.
But Kentucky beat the same LSU team that Mississippi State lost to.

You want to hammer at games you won....kudos. But you can't just ignore all the bad losses, too.

quote:

Please learn the fricking basics of message boards like the quote function and don't jump on your own fricking tangent like a 5-year old.
Are you getting me confused with somebody else? Where have I not quoted correctly? Dude. calm down and follow the thread.

1. I typically use the quote function every time.
2. I never brought up Kansas State.


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Please learn the fricking basics of message boards like the quote function and don't jump on your own fricking tangent like a 5-year old.


I see you brought Kansas State, but I have never said anything about Kansas State. maybe you should know who and what you are arguing with and about?

Crap. That was the Oklahoma fan that brought up Kansas State!

But yeah. I need to learn how to work a message board.
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 12:36 pm
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 12:32 pm to
UK is 7-3 and would have an argument for the top 25 if Florida and LSU hadn’t turned out to be horse shite. I just hope we get Penn State in a bowl. That will be fun.
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