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RB10
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re: How good was the LSU OL in 2019
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The same defense that got plenty of pressure on your qb and held your rb in check? Burrow’s extraordinary ability to avoid pressure isn’t evidence of a great OL.


2 sacks and 3 TFL total? Mindboggling numbers there.


rtr1985
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re: How good was the LSU OL in 2019
Not just the same page, but outrageous. Joe Brady brought an excellent scheme to outplay modern defenses. Joe Burrow took advantage, but I think a lot of players would have done well considering just how well his offense was running. There just wasn't a good answer to his passing attack.


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djsdawg
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sacks and 3 TFL total? Mindboggling numbers there.


Well, that point went over your head. Burrow avoided at least 2 sacks with his feet. No telling how many sacks he avoided but imagine it was at least 20 in 15 games.


RB10
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Well, that point went over your head. Burrow avoided at least 2 sacks with his feet. No telling how many sacks he avoided but imagine it was at least 20 in 15 games.


The point didn't go anywhere. Using one game to try and measure an entire season is ignorant.

Burrow absolutely avoided sacks with his feet. He also held the ball a bit too long at times and caused some. That's how it usually works.

From the voters of the award:

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"It's incredible how often and how well they pass block in "empty" protection (no TE or RB help). There are plays all season, including the SEC Championship game where they are blocking 6, 7, 8, 10 seconds while Burrow looks to throw downfield. Great awareness in pass pro and often look for work and pick up delayed rushers. Appear willing to happily serve up some "full slabs" by rearranging an unsuspecting D-lineman's rib cage in slide protection. Very physical bunch."


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re: How good was the LSU OL in 2019
Mediocre at best. Burrow is the only reason they won an award

- LSU fan


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Groundscrew85
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re: How good was the LSU OL in 2019
Who cares their team had the greatest season in the history of college football. 15-0 something your team never experienced.


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Melt


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djsdawg
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re: How good was the LSU OL in 2019
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point didn't go anywhere. Using one game to try and measure an entire season is ignorant.


It was a LSU fan who did that FYI. I made the point burrow avoided sacks all 15 games.


RB10
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re: How good was the LSU OL in 2019
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It was a LSU fan who did that FYI. I made the point burrow avoided sacks all 15 games.




Every QB on every team avoids sacks.

The only valid point being made is the guys who watched game film on all of the units in contention voted LSU the best.
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djsdawg
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And every qbs in every team threw tds, so what? Burrow was extraordinary at what we are discussing. Most qbs can’t do what he did in every facet of the game. Without burrow making them look much better, no way they win the award.


RB10
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"There is a tendency to hyper-focus on the rushing attacks and the run-blocking of these units, but LSU forced us to really alter our filters and do a deeper dive. They were solid against the run, but their ability to handle protection duties against SEC rushers with so many receivers out in routes was really impressive and one of the reasons QB Joe Burrow won the Heisman. It's not THE reason, but it's definitely one of them."


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"It's incredible how often and how well they pass block in "empty" protection (no TE or RB help). There are plays all season, including the SEC Championship game where they are blocking 6, 7, 8, 10 seconds while Burrow looks to throw downfield. Great awareness in pass pro and often look for work and pick up delayed rushers. Appear willing to happily serve up some "full slabs" by rearranging an unsuspecting D-lineman's rib cage in slide protection. Very physical bunch."


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“In an unprecedented recognition of physicality in pass protection, Coach Cregg’s unit separated itself in the eyes of the voters by their effort and strain in the run game, and by how consistently they demonstrated that pass protection is not passive,” said Aaron Taylor, CBS college football analyst and co-founder of the Joe Moore Award. Taylor played guard and tackle at the University of Notre Dame for the Award’s namesake, the legendary offensive line coach Joe Moore.


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“All of this year’s finalists displayed the award criteria in impressive fashion, but LSU made a statement by how well they played together as a group and brought physicality to everything they did,” said Randy Cross, three-time All-Pro with the San Francisco 49ers, College Football Hall of Famer, CBS college football analyst, and JMA voting committee member. “LSU showed a tone-setting attitude in both pass protection and in their run blocking that really caught the attention of the 200 plus member voting body that has collectively played and coached this position for well over 800 years.”


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"Passing as much as this offense did this year puts a unique strain on the group up front and boy did they respond. Sitting and watching these guys on film, the number of pass protection reps that I wrote down 'Teach Tape Worthy' next to in my notes was remarkable. Pass pro is definitely not passive for these guys."


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“They define what the teamwork criteria is about. They really worked well together in their combination blocks and in pass pro. Always a lot of [defenders] on the ground when the play was over. Played to the echo of the whistle on a regular.”


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“Very efficient in both run game and protection. I thought they played with the most physicality. Borderline violent at times. All of the finalists were tough and physical, but it seemed like LSU was particularly prickly when given the chance.”


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djsdawg
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re: How good was the LSU OL in 2019
Simply gave up too many sacks, which was skewed down by a lot thanks to burrow’s feet.


Harry Morgan
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15-0 good.


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LSU Patrick
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I've also read That Joe Burrow was the most pressured QB in CFB last season.
If he was he handled the pressure extremely well.
Just a serious question. What do you guys think.?


There were a lot of moving pieces early on in the season. They made it work.

They also faced at least 4 top-10 defenses throughout the season.


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clamdip
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It was a classic case of a rising tide lifts all ships... Our OL was by far the biggest question mark going into 2019, but they grew in confidence as the season went on. And the scheme and Burrow's ability to put the offense in the best position to succeed really helped the profile of the OL.

Was shocked they got that award, but they were really good by late season.


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ImayGoLesMiles
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Best in college football in 2019. They have awards for shite like this and they won it.


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RB10
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Simply gave up too many sacks, which was skewed down by a lot thanks to burrow’s feet.


I’ll stick to the analysis of the people who actually watched the film.


thunderbird1100
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re: How good was the LSU OL in 2019
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And every qbs in every team threw tds, so what? Burrow was extraordinary at what we are discussing. Most qbs can’t do what he did in every facet of the game. Without burrow making them look much better, no way they win the award.



I agree 100%. It was an above average to good line. Definitely not best in the country. Burrow escaped probably an extra sack a game easily.

Football outsiders OL numbers show it was average pass blocking and pretty good run blocking which isn't best in nation material really. Because of how good the team was we got on that award after award roll, except for the coaches picking Nix for SEC FOY over Stingley, which will never make any sense
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djsdawg
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stick to the analysis of the people who actually watched the film.


Watching film isn’t worth much if they ignore all of the sacks and pressures.


RB10
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Watching film isn’t worth much if they ignore all of the sacks and pressures.




You've been provided with direct quotes about why LSU won it. Gnashing your teeth over it doesn't really change anything.

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