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re: How good was Jamarcus Russell?
Posted on 11/2/17 at 12:52 pm to ReelTiger1
Posted on 11/2/17 at 12:52 pm to ReelTiger1
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If you paid attention, he may have been drafted at #1, but he finished the season that year at #13 in the country. The year before that he was ranked #27 in the country. The year before that he wasn't ranked.
So his #1 draft status meant shite.
Bottom line. He was and OK college QB. That's all he was.
Couldn't read a defense to save his life.
You have no idea what you're talking about and any further opinions you have should be ignored.
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 12:52 pm to DonaldDuckworth
True, he was dangerous in busted play situations. He was just so damn talented that it doesn't make any damn sense the way he let himself go the way he did after he left LSU. He needed structure and in the pros they don't provide the structure off the field like college does. That was his downfall, jamarcus being left to do whatever jamarcus wanted to do outside of his football responsibilities, and he didn't seem to take care of his football ones either as a pro.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 12:52 pm to Bench McElroy
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I admittedly didn't watch a lot of JaMarcus Russell at LSU but it seemed like he was very prone to laying eggs in big games. LSU never won a conference title in his three years there while they won the SEC and NC the year before his RS freshman year (2003) and the year after he left (2007).
Russell was absolutely clutch. I can't tell you how many games we won on last minute drives. He was at his best when improvising. We lost 4 games in 2 years while he was the starter, one being the infamous 06 Auburn game.
Russell did not start his freshman year, he split time with Marcus Randall.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 12:53 pm to TheCaterpillar
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I mean, what? I feel like people let his pro career overshadow his college career. He was awesome at LSU.
You disagree that with the immense talent he had that he should have accomplished more at LSU? I am not sure if you can blame coaching or what, but his ceiling was higher than his production, even at LSU.
Not knocking him, but his underachieving started in college and manifested itself in the NFL.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 12:54 pm to Bench McElroy
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I admittedly didn't watch a lot of JaMarcus Russell at LSU but it seemed like he was very prone to laying eggs in big games. LSU never won a conference title in his three years there while they won the SEC and NC the year before his RS freshman year (2003) and the year after he left (2007).
you'll get some blowback for this but it's not totally crazy. He was meh against Tennessee in 2005 and the 2006 Florida game he accounted for multiple turnovers and we lost the game.
that having been said, he also came up with huge plays in big spots as well. I think he lead something like 10 or 11 4th quarter comebacks.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 12:55 pm to ReelTiger1
Damn reeltiger, you're a complete fricking idiot if you truly believe jamarcus russell was simply an "ok college qb". Holy shite.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 12:56 pm to TheCaterpillar
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You have no idea what you're talking about and any further opinions you have should be ignored.
TheCatpecker,
Go check the facts and get back to me.
Thanks
Posted on 11/2/17 at 12:57 pm to 33inNC
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You disagree that with the immense talent he had that he should have accomplished more at LSU?
In 2006, Russell completed 67% of his passes for 3,129 yards, 28 TDs/8 ints and ended with a 167 passer rating.
Playing for Les Miles
Posted on 11/2/17 at 12:57 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
Badly overrated
He was surrounded by great talent , similar to QB’s at Miami in the 90’s and current Bama QB’s. So in fact they look better than they really are.
Superb college QB though in the system he was in.
He was surrounded by great talent , similar to QB’s at Miami in the 90’s and current Bama QB’s. So in fact they look better than they really are.
Superb college QB though in the system he was in.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 12:59 pm to thunderbird1100
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Auburn interfered with Early Doucet on that 4th down play at the end of the game, I wont ever let that go. Picking up that flag still pisses me off.
in spite of the rules of football...clear video evidence...the fact that LSU benefited from the exact same situation/call against UF this year....the rules of football...just won't ever let it go. Ok. Congrats on the 11th (or whatever) anniversary of your moral victory
Posted on 11/2/17 at 1:00 pm to 33inNC
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You disagree that with the immense talent he had that he should have accomplished more at LSU? I am not sure if you can blame coaching or what, but his ceiling was higher than his production, even at LSU.
Not knocking him, but his underachieving started in college and manifested itself in the NFL.
Ok well let’s look at another immensely talented arm in the SEC who had great weapons to throw to, Matthew Stafford:
Stafford last year:
235/383, 61.4% completion, 3,459 yards, 9.0 Y/A, 25 TDs/10 INTs, 153.5 QBR
Jamarcus last year:
232/342, 67.8% completion, 3,129 yards, 9.1 Y/A, 28 TDs/8 INTs, 167 QBR (highest in nation)
No one claimed Stafford under-performed.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 1:00 pm to ReelTiger1
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TheCatpecker,
Go check the facts and get back to me.
Thanks
Stafford last year:
235/383, 61.4% completion, 3,459 yards, 9.0 Y/A, 25 TDs/10 INTs, 153.5 QBR
Jamarcus last year:
232/342, 67.8% completion, 3,129 yards, 9.1 Y/A, 28 TDs/8 INTs, 167 QBR (highest in nation)
Posted on 11/2/17 at 1:01 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
I coached against him when he was a 6' 5" 220 freshman QB at Williamson High. I saw the ability and talent then and I told him as much after he led them down the field against us in the last 2 minutes to beat us in the playoffs. Damn shame what his career turned in to.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 1:01 pm to ReelTiger1
He was the #1 overall pick for a reason. Pro scouts and gms from every team in the league would have drafted him 1st overall if they had the opportunity. He was touted as being the most arm talented qb scouts had ever seen going into the draft, and thats a fact. I remember his proday at lsu just before the draft and the shite he did was amazing. He wowed everyone there. Jamarcus was a special qb. It's not up for debate honestly lol. He had some of the best physical tools in a qb ever coming out of college at LSU and he was considered to be a sure thing prospect. That's why he's considered prob one of the top 5 busts of all time without question. It just dint make any sense the way he handled himself as a pro with all of the talent in the frickin world to work with. Nothing physical held jamarcus back, it was everything but that.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 1:02 pm to DonaldDuckworth
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in spite of the rules of football...clear video evidence...the fact that LSU benefited from the exact same situation/call against UF this year....the rules of football...just won't ever let it go
Huh?
Posted on 11/2/17 at 1:03 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
very very good
obviously had a substance abuse problem that eventually led to a crippling addiction
obviously had a substance abuse problem that eventually led to a crippling addiction
Posted on 11/2/17 at 1:03 pm to TheCaterpillar
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232/342, 67.8% completion, 3,129 yards, 9.1 Y/A, 28 TDs/8 INTs, 167 QBR (highest in nation)
like another guy said earlier, but it bears repeating, PLAYING FOR LES MILES!!!!!!
Posted on 11/2/17 at 1:07 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Stafford last year:
TheCatpecker.
Show me his RANKING
2006. He was ranked #11 in College QBR (corrected)
2005. He was ranked #31 in College QBR (corrected from #27)
He was UNRANKED in 2004 and played behind Marcus Randell
He finished the 2006 Season behind
1 Joe Ganz, NEB 2.6 0.0 -0.4 0.3 2.5 21 99.3 98.8
2 Pat White, WVU 37.7 45.0 -7.6 1.2 76.1 370 88.6 90.5
3 Jim Ollis, AFA -0.2 0.9 0.0 0.1 0.8 23 79.6 86.6
4 Jarrett Brown, WVU 7.6 5.2 -2.3 -0.1 11.1 89 78.5 86.5
5 Michael Desormeaux, ULL -1.3 9.1 -1.9 -0.3 5.6 39 88.6 86.5
6 Tim Tebow, FLA 3.6 12.0 0.0 -0.7 14.8 139 80.0 86.2
7 Colt Brennan, HAW 125.2 15.4 -14.8 1.3 127.5 690 87.0 85.8
8 Billy Farris, CSU -0.1 2.3 -0.8 1.6 3.0 37 81.8 84.7
9 Jason Beck, BYU 4.9 0.7 -0.2 0.3 5.8 40 94.5 84.2
10 John Beck, BYU 80.7 0.0 -9.7 1.6 72.7 517 79.2 83.4
11 JaMarcus Russell, LSU 65.2 1.3 -11.8 0.1 54.7 428 75.8 82.1
Posted on 11/2/17 at 1:09 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
Jeremy Johnson with a QB Coach.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 1:15 pm to DonaldDuckworth
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in spite of the rules of football
the ball had not been tipped when the interference occurred
it was a bad call
as was the "leaping" bullshite in 2004.
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