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re: How can CFP commitee defend Tulane and JMU? (And what does this mean for future?)

Posted on 12/21/25 at 11:13 am to
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
16310 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 11:13 am to
I don't mind them being in, but it needs to be because they're actually able to compete, not because they won the SunBeast Conf and finished at #16.
Posted by DivePlay
Member since Sep 2012
1261 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 11:36 am to
This is a great solution
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61963 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 11:52 am to
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The G5 programs aren’t going to agree to a separate championship with lower compensation. They like the $$$ that comes from a CFP appearance.


I get what you are saying, and it makes sense on one level, but on the other hand, they would in the long run make more money. I mean, this year was an outlier that two got in. Most years, I would think you would get 1 in. If they had their own playoff, they could actually win a National Championship and they could do a playoff of 12, 16, 32 or however many teams they would want, and more teams would spit at least some money rather than one team making all the money.
Posted by mtnhighTiger
Scottsdale, AZ
Member since Jan 2010
4451 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 12:10 pm to
Well, JMU was the only lower seeded team to actually score some points. The game was never in doubt but they did put up some points. I wonder how they would have fared against OU, A&M, Bama or Miami.

Oregon just boat raced them.
Posted by mtnhighTiger
Scottsdale, AZ
Member since Jan 2010
4451 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

1 OSU
2 Indiana
3 UGA
4 Oregon
5 TT
6 Ole Miss
7 ATM
8 OU
9 ND
10 Alabama
11 BYU
12 ND
13 Vanderbilt
14 Texas
15 Utah
16 Virginia


Does ND get in twice? Varsity and JV?
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
1576 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 12:25 pm to
By the time they started scoring points the game was 48-13 in the middle of the third qtr. Pure trash points that shouldn't be looked at as "bring competitive ". The game was over the moment Oregon started averaging 7.7 yards per rush attempt in the first half.
This post was edited on 12/21/25 at 12:25 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39391 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 12:29 pm to
It's not the committee, it's the stupid format.

Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
14181 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 12:30 pm to
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Thanks Sankey.


The same Sankey that multiple times expressed frustration with the committee decisions on CFP inclusions? Not everything is Sankey's fault.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
26862 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 12:37 pm to
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think the powers that be were hoping for some Cinderella stories like they get in the Basketball Tournament


Except football not a tournament sport like basketball and baseball. Depth and talent really carry a season and it’s easier to achieve with a starting 5 and a coupe of defense that pieces rather than a starting 22 who have to rotate consistently to finish a game. It was never going to happen in a 4/12 team playoff. Maybe in the old BCs where you pubs to beat me team one time but not in a week after week scenario.
Posted by JacieNY
Member since Jul 2024
2004 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 12:59 pm to
If you are a serious bettor have I got a deal for you.

Every week ask me who my picks are and don't ever put money on any of them.

I seem to have a real knack at picking losers.
Posted by volinknox
Member since Sep 2024
315 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 1:22 pm to
This will only hurry the leaving of the NCAA by 65 or 70 teams. Everyone tired of the participation trophy teams. Should be no Automatic qualifiers. There should be no human poll that decides the teams! Humans are biased.....computers are not.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61963 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 1:44 pm to
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If you are a serious bettor have I got a deal for you.

Every week ask me who my picks are and don't ever put money on any of them.

I seem to have a real knack at picking losers.


No. I don't bet, but thanks for the offer! It is only one reason I don't bet. I could name all the teams who would sin and hit on almost all of theem, but if I ever put money on them they would instantly lose. Seems we have something in common!
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
8944 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 1:46 pm to
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I would go down to 6 even.


Back to 2 as God intended.

Put the big bowl games back on new years
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61963 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 1:51 pm to
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It's not the committee, it's the stupid format.



Agreed. The committee did not say they had to have a G5 team in there. The seedings were not the committees fault last year either. The parameters ensure the conference champions got the bye. Too many people want to heap blame on the committee when they are simply doing what the parameters tell them to do. Now...in fairness it was the committee that decided to put TWO G5 teams in instead of including Texas or ND....or Vandy for that matter.

Had they chosen Texas, ND would have gone crazy and screams of SEC bias would have reigned down and if they had picked ND the SEC as a whole and Texas would have gone crazy.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23141 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 1:52 pm to
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Next year will go to 16 teams and the NCAA needs to set up a TV deal and promote subdivision national championship for smaller schools. In this betting environment would draw a lot of attention and make a lot of money.
That's a decent idea.
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Never understood why D1 needs 132 teams.

And therein lays a lot of the problem. In no universe should the Sun Belt and MAC be given the same considerations as the SEC and Big 10. They ARE different levels, and they should be classified as such.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61963 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 2:26 pm to
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Back to 2 as God intended.

Put the big bowl games back on new years


I do get the argument that the top two teams are subjective and I could see 4-5 teams that could argue they could win a title. That's why I would argue for 6 and we could POSSIBLY get by with 4. For me, 6 is the sweet spot.
Posted by bttrflyjss87
MS
Member since Sep 2024
92 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 3:11 pm to
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They would in the long run make more money


No, they wouldn’t. Think about it. While ticket sales bring in some revenue, most of it comes from television rights. That’s the heart of conference realignment. They split off, they lose viewership. Look up FCS bowl viewership numbers compared to CFP viewership numbers. CFP gets double the eyeballs.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7824 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 3:15 pm to
The committee doesn't have to defend JMU and Tulane. They didn't select those teams. Those teams played their way in based on the rules the 4 power conferences approved when the playoff was created (before the committee existed).

The committee only handles at large teams. They have no choice for automatic qualifiers. Blame the ACC, SEC, Big 10 and Big 12 for that.

Posted by Delupe
Member since Oct 2025
383 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 3:32 pm to
SC played well against Ole Miss, Bama, and TAMU, but looked pitiful against LSU and Clemson. Go figure.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
7552 posts
Posted on 12/21/25 at 4:32 pm to
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One G5 team has to be in due to anti-trust countermeasures.

NFL has an antitrust exemption, and we don’t enforce it in any other capacity so… why not
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