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re: Horrible job by the committee

Posted on 11/16/17 at 8:34 am to
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32484 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 8:34 am to
quote:

Quality wins and terrible losses should both be considered and injuries are a part of the game.



But UGA has no quality wins.


And they lost to a team that lost to Troy. And Clemson
Posted by IStillMissDanny
S TX
Member since Aug 2016
2151 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 8:35 am to
If it plays out like your last scenario, there will be riots no matter the committee’s decision. They showed last year with the B1G that they will leave a champ out. I bet Bama would get that nod. And Auburn would rightly have a fit.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 8:36 am to
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If it plays out like your last scenario, there will be riots no matter the committee’s decision. They showed last year with the B1G that they will leave a champ out. I bet Bama would get that nod. And Auburn would rightly have a fit.


Nah, if Auburn wins out they are going. They won't do that again.

But I'm sure Ohio State will somehow weasel back in.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70932 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 8:37 am to
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Miami should be #2.

Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 8:38 am to
The committee consistently does a horrible job. There is no baseline and the bcs ranking system with a 4 team playoff would be much better. But they want control to create big matchups (see Clemson and miami's ranking this week) as well as to have something to discuss week in and week out.

I love the playoff but the committee is horrible and when they start expanding the playoff it will be the beginning of the end of college football as we know it. Enjoy it while it lasts
This post was edited on 11/16/17 at 9:01 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 8:39 am to
Honestly, I would have gone

1. Miami
2. Alabama
3. Oklahoma
4. Clemson
5. Wisconsin
6. Auburn
7. Georgia
8. Penn State
9. Ohio State
10. Notre Dame
Posted by IStillMissDanny
S TX
Member since Aug 2016
2151 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 8:42 am to
Yep.

Unless it goes completely crazy, those top 7 are the ones with legitimate shots.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70932 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 8:44 am to
I agree but the committee isn't going to jump Miami from 7 to 1 over a still undefeated bama

and that's fine
Posted by IStillMissDanny
S TX
Member since Aug 2016
2151 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 8:52 am to
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But they want control to create big matchups (see Clemson and miami's ranking this week) as well as to have something to discuss week in and week out.


Since most of these teams are going to sort themselves out anyway, what’s wrong with building the hype with these SEC and ACC schools being ranked highly and maybe getting a few more casual fans involved? There isn’t such a huge difference in these teams where it’s just blatant where they’re ranked anyway. We’re all arguing about one or two places in the rankings. Irrelevant.
The more eyeballs the better.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 9:00 am to
quote:

quote:
But they want control to create big matchups (see Clemson and miami's ranking this week) as well as to have something to discuss week in and week out.


Since most of these teams are going to sort themselves out anyway, what’s wrong with building the hype with these SEC and ACC schools being ranked highly and maybe getting a few more casual fans involved? There isn’t such a huge difference in these teams where it’s just blatant where they’re ranked anyway. We’re all arguing about one or two places in the rankings. Irrelevant.
The more eyeballs the better.



It just sort of undermines the reliability and trust of the ranking system in my mind when it appears that they are trying to hype up games. A lot of subjectivity to the whims of the committee which i don't personally think creates a solid foundation for the system.
Posted by IStillMissDanny
S TX
Member since Aug 2016
2151 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 9:04 am to
They’re still human. There will always be some bias.

At this point, does it matter whether Miami , Clemson or Oklahoma is ranked second? Are they getting a trophy for it?
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 9:04 am to
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Miami has one win where they looked really good. Bad schedule. One game where they looked really good. Needed a horseshoe up their asses to beat FSU and Tech. Why do people keep trying to crown them?


Agreed. They looked damn good last week against ND and that's what is giving them a big boost. But they're had a number of close wins against bad teams. That being said, I think it works itself out. Can't imagine they beat Clemson.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 9:13 am to
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If you can't beat a 4-6 team with a backup qb then you don't deserve to be the #2 team in the nation. Especially when there are a few undefeateds left on the table.


Exactly. If you lose a close game without your starting QB to a top 15 team, that might be understandable. That is not the case with Clemson and Syracuse.
Posted by DannyByGodFord
Member since Jan 2016
1029 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 9:38 am to
Let’s also not forget guys what happened the last two times Oklahoma and that high powered offense faced Clemson.....

77-23 Clemson
Posted by PurpleandGeauld
Florence, TX
Member since Oct 2013
5183 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:06 am to
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Clemson's QB was playing hurt the first half against Syracuse. To say they had him for a half is true, but he was severely limited.

When we played Syracuse we had half our DL out, our 2 starting tackles (iirc) out, Guice playing on 1 leg (should have not played at all tbh), and Key was way out of shape and not himself yet. I don't think Clemson should get that much slack.
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22378 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:11 am to
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Meh, Eason is healthy and still riding the bench. UGA’s only loss came with a healthy Eason on the bench. Clemson is a different team with their starting QB.


So don't reward Georgia because they have a competent backup but don't punish Clemson because they don't?

As others have said, if you aren't a good enough team at the other 21 positions to beat a 4-6 team then maybe you aren't the second best team in the country.
This post was edited on 11/16/17 at 10:16 am
Posted by Cockeee Don
Myrtle Beach, SC
Member since Jul 2014
690 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:15 am to
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I'd have Miami number two, but Clemson's QB was playing hurt the first half against Syracuse. To say they had him for a half is true, but he was severely limited.


That was the coaches' fault. He shouldn't have been in there. You can't forgive coaching mistakes. I would like to see our record with Deebo Samuel in all season. Is it just the QB injuries that get forgiven?
Posted by DannyByGodFord
Member since Jan 2016
1029 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:22 am to
“I would like to see our record with Deebo Samuel in all season”

Lmao
Posted by DannyByGodFord
Member since Jan 2016
1029 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:25 am to
Miami and Clemson belong in the top 4 regardless so how can you blame the committee for “creating” that matchup?
This post was edited on 11/16/17 at 10:26 am
Posted by DannyByGodFord
Member since Jan 2016
1029 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:28 am to
The national champs shouldn’t have been playing on a Friday night in New York anyway. We deserve a mulligan. The committee knows and everyone else does as well that Clemson is one of the best in the country.
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