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re: I may have reasoned myself into a James Franklin hire for LSU. And Orgeron is the reason
Posted by magildachunks on 11/8/25 at 4:24 am to YieldDawg
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LSU could do a lot worse but I don’t see them going this route.
Nobody saw us going the Orgeron route.
But I championed Ed Orgeron for head coach.
He proved his worth at a chance by saving not one season, but two seasons as interim.
I was ridiculed on here by fans of every team, especially LSU.
I was right.
I'm not fully supporting a Franklin hire yet...but I'm definitely open to it after giving it some serious consideration.
Low pay, high reward. Or no reward, but no high financial risk.
Let's give chance to another man with a chip on his shoulder.
I may have reasoned myself into a James Franklin hire for LSU. And Orgeron is the reason
Posted by magildachunks on 11/8/25 at 3:40 am
We hired Orgeron on the basis that he didn't care about the money, he cared about proving everyone else wrong about his abilities and ceiling (USC).
I think he may have been the lowest paid coach in the SEC until he won the NC, and then he was maybe in the top five.
His buyout was 17 million.
His entire contract was incentive based, just like Miles and Saban ( granted, we made Saban the highest paid coach when he was hired to get him here. $1 million a year. Media blasted that saying it was absurd to pay a coach that much) But his contract was loaded with incentives as well that could more than double his salary.
Hell, if Saban wasn't in the same division as Miles, Miles would have gained multi generational wealth from his incentives.
But he didn't, because he didn't fulfill the conditions.
And then comes Woodward, who gives a guaranteed contract, regardless of results. The second time btw because he apparently didn't learn his lesson from the Jimbo fiasco. And the result is we fired our first coach since the last century for not winning a NC.
Which brings me to Franklin. He doesn't need the money, but like Orgeron, he needs to prove everyone else wrong about his abilities and ceiling.
LSU is the type of place for that. I mean...we took Ole Miss' ( possibly the SEC's) worst coach of all time and won a NC with him.
Penn State has always been known for collapsing on the big stage, so maybe Franklin isn't completely to blame.
Given the chance, he may be able to pull an Orgeron at LSU. We are capable of doing that for a coach, as long as he has the fire
I think he may have been the lowest paid coach in the SEC until he won the NC, and then he was maybe in the top five.
His buyout was 17 million.
His entire contract was incentive based, just like Miles and Saban ( granted, we made Saban the highest paid coach when he was hired to get him here. $1 million a year. Media blasted that saying it was absurd to pay a coach that much) But his contract was loaded with incentives as well that could more than double his salary.
Hell, if Saban wasn't in the same division as Miles, Miles would have gained multi generational wealth from his incentives.
But he didn't, because he didn't fulfill the conditions.
And then comes Woodward, who gives a guaranteed contract, regardless of results. The second time btw because he apparently didn't learn his lesson from the Jimbo fiasco. And the result is we fired our first coach since the last century for not winning a NC.
Which brings me to Franklin. He doesn't need the money, but like Orgeron, he needs to prove everyone else wrong about his abilities and ceiling.
LSU is the type of place for that. I mean...we took Ole Miss' ( possibly the SEC's) worst coach of all time and won a NC with him.
Penn State has always been known for collapsing on the big stage, so maybe Franklin isn't completely to blame.
Given the chance, he may be able to pull an Orgeron at LSU. We are capable of doing that for a coach, as long as he has the fire
re: ESPN: Jon Sumrall is one of the hottest coaching candidates
Posted by magildachunks on 11/8/25 at 3:24 am to magildachunks
Son of a bitch...I think I may have just described James Franklin.
He doesn't need the money... and he does need to prove everyone else wrong about not being able to win the big one.
No....no...dammit, it could work. At some point we have to admit that Penn State has always faltered in the spotlight.
James Franklin may be a cheap option for head coach, because just like Orgeron, he probably cares more about thrusting a finger at the world and we are the exact type of program that could accomplish that for him.
frick...I may have reasoned myself into supporting a Franklin hire. :banghead:
He doesn't need the money... and he does need to prove everyone else wrong about not being able to win the big one.
No....no...dammit, it could work. At some point we have to admit that Penn State has always faltered in the spotlight.
James Franklin may be a cheap option for head coach, because just like Orgeron, he probably cares more about thrusting a finger at the world and we are the exact type of program that could accomplish that for him.
frick...I may have reasoned myself into supporting a Franklin hire. :banghead:
re: ESPN: Jon Sumrall is one of the hottest coaching candidates
Posted by magildachunks on 11/8/25 at 3:18 am to CalTiger53
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Any coach who comes in with incentives based contract is good, otherwise, forget it.
Three coaches before Kelly were hired under incentive based contracts (you want more money, here's how you earn it) All three won a National Championship.
Granted, Saban was hired with the biggest coaching salary ever at the time, but it was minuscule to what he could earn by achieving certain goals, like winning the West, the SEC, and a National Championship.
Les got the same conditions: enough of a guarantee to lure him away from his current program to ours, but the only way he could make generational wealth was by achieving certain goals: win the West, the SEC, and a NC. He still had incentive based pay in his contract when he was fired. If Saban hadn't been in the same division as Les, Les would have made way more money than he did.
Then we go to Orgeron. The epitome of a "Prove you are worth this much" hire if ever there was one. I think he may have been the lowest paid coach in the SEC until he won the NC.
And then Woodward comes along and pays a coach a guaranteed full contract with no incentives(for the second time btw. Apparently he didn't recognize how flawed his system was after the Jimbo fiasco) and for the first time since the last century we fired a coach for not winning a NC.
We legit took the worst coach in SEC history and won a NC with him. But we gave him a reason to put effort into his job, and also gave him the benefit of proving everyone else wrong about his abilities and ceiling.
Orgeron didn't care about the money when he took the job, he cared about proving the doubters (USC) wrong for dismissing him.
Let's go find us another coach with a chip on his shoulder. A coach who cares less about the money and more about proving everyone else wrong about him.
re: LSU's new AD personally vetted Jimbo for the LSU job when Saban left for the Dolphins
Posted by magildachunks on 11/5/25 at 8:03 am to JustGetItRight
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Which is the gold standard in selecting a head coach in the SEC.
Even when “knows how to beat Alabama” means you’re 1-5 with a single 4 point win.
He’s 100% the guy they should hire.
Our last NC coach didn't even know how to beat any SEC team, much less Bama.
frick getting a big name, splash hire unless it's Saban.
Give me someone who wants to make his name.
re: Madison Brooks case updates
Posted by magildachunks on 11/5/25 at 7:52 am to LSUGrrrl
That YouTube video is the definition of sensationalism media.
Holy propaganda Batman!
Holy propaganda Batman!
re: You don’t have to have a mobile QB.
Posted by magildachunks on 11/2/25 at 10:40 am to mule74
You don't need a mobile QB, you need a QB coach who can teach the QB how to work a pocket.
That is a lost art. Pocket qbs no longer exist because nobody teaches that skill set.
That is a lost art. Pocket qbs no longer exist because nobody teaches that skill set.
re: What’s your old man screams at cloud complaints of modern sports
Posted by magildachunks on 10/31/25 at 1:25 pm to PeteRose
Allowing offensive lines to push the ball carrier forward in a scrum.
re: Kelvin Sheppard Presser
Posted by magildachunks on 10/31/25 at 10:52 am to The Pirate King
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Whoever is coming in for this job needs to have years of experience in navigating everything off the field.
The current state of college football is only about 4 years old.
Nobody meets that criteria.
And don't forget: Kirby was a life-long coordinator with no head coach experience when Georgia hired him.
Kelly had 30 years of head coaching experience when he was hired by LSU.
re: tRant Melts: Where does this LSU one rank?
Posted by magildachunks on 10/31/25 at 10:49 am to AggieArchitect2004
Why would we melt over something we wanted to happen?
re: TKE members arrested for criminal hazing
Posted by magildachunks on 10/30/25 at 5:01 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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Because the charges are misdemeanors, the pair was not booked into jail and their mugshots were not taken.
Why doesn't this apply to DWI's?
re: Louisiana’s governor said “we’re broke, our AD sucks, please join us”
Posted by magildachunks on 10/29/25 at 9:12 pm to Nasty_Canasta
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Saban (LSU, Bama)
Meyer (Florida, Ohio State)
Neither one of those was hired away from the first school listed by the second school listed.
Ok, we tried letting the adults be in charge, now can we go back to men being in charge
Posted by magildachunks on 10/26/25 at 6:34 pm
I'm tired of pussy football.
LSU has a chance to do the funniest thing possible for an Interim Coach
Posted by magildachunks on 10/26/25 at 6:28 pm
He's still being paid by LSU
re: Position coaches sent home from facility
Posted by magildachunks on 10/26/25 at 4:38 pm to ReubenRanDog
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Right? Doesn't someone need to coach the team?
They sent out the Slinger Signal.
He's coming...
re: Les Miles 2.0
Posted by magildachunks on 10/26/25 at 9:55 am to lsimon
This is nothing like Les Miles.
His teams had heart and pride.
His teams had heart and pride.
re: Texas A&M 49 @ LSU 25 Final - ABC
Posted by magildachunks on 10/25/25 at 7:56 pm to saltytiger2
Da frick Sloan?
re: Fire the ST Coach. Fire the OC. Fire the QB
Posted by magildachunks on 10/25/25 at 4:02 pm to OU Guy
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Our season ending game with LSU might be to decide who gets the worst bowl game and second worst one.
Do y'all want the Texas bowl or the mayonnaise bowl?
re: Actively rooting for food stamp/WIC to expire overnight
Posted by magildachunks on 10/23/25 at 6:38 pm to Lakeboy7
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Trumps America is not just petty, has a nice cruel streak in there as well.
Republicans aren't the reason for this.
Democrats need to grow the frick up and stop their little temper tantrum.
re: LMAO at the WBRZ morning crew
Posted by magildachunks on 10/23/25 at 6:56 am to Da Sheik
Not everyone can be a manly man like you, you badass you.
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