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re: Historically, who truly is 2nd best in the SEC behind Alabama?

Posted on 5/17/18 at 3:10 pm to
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 3:10 pm to
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Not anxious to claim it, just curious why we don't...


I'm not sure. It's a good question, though. I've always found it interesting the Championships some schools choose to claim, while not claiming some others that seem like a better argument could be made.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 3:13 pm to
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All-time rankings. The hardware says UF.


Okay. Claim it, then!
Stuff like that doesn't make me feel better or worse about my program.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86468 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

The hardware says UF.


the hardware that says UF has 1 more season than UGA in being best in the country?

Or the hardware that says UGA has 5 more seasons than UF of being best in the league that we both play in?

Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 3:16 pm to
Then why do y'all get so upset about the possibility of UF being a better program?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 3:20 pm to
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Then why do y'all get so upset about the possibility of UF being a better program?


Upset? Who? Y'all is a pretty ambiguous word.
I mean...are you upset?
This post was edited on 5/17/18 at 3:21 pm
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29678 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 3:27 pm to
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Then why do y'all get so upset about the possibility of UF being a better program?



why would we be upset about something that will probably never happen
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 3:29 pm to
Thanks for proving my point.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 3:40 pm to
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Thanks for proving my point.


I understand what you are saying, but you are arguing the opposite view point. Does that mean you are upset?
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 3:40 pm to
"It's preposterous! Outrageous! Rabble rabble!"
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29678 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 3:47 pm to
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Thanks for proving my point.


you're welcome, I guess

we would have to implode and y'all would have to be on fire for 2 decades for y'all to catch up

will Merlins be that Genie in a bottle that Gators are looking for?

maybe, maybe not - it's sure possible

but I don't see us imploding any time soon
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17270 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 4:34 pm to
Not L7U.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 4:56 pm to
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How can Florida dominate Tennessee and Georgia for the last 30 years, win more titles and SEC championship games then both combined and still get placed behind both?


You don't understand the difference in "historically" and "since Spurrier arrived".

I'm not sure how old you are, but there was a time when UF was a perennial SEC doormat.
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
5380 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 5:06 pm to
I can’t possibly say I was wrong in any different way than I already have. Read the rest of the thread man.
Posted by Scoreboard
Madison, AL
Member since Apr 2012
2011 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 6:35 pm to
You yourself said historically, yet you use your own prediction to advance Georgia ahead of Tennessee. Predictions are not historical !
Posted by Sean Bean
USA
Member since May 2018
490 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 6:44 pm to
It’s just forward looking statements to add to the historical stats, brother. No malicious intent.
Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
3963 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 6:52 pm to
I'm changing to the Gators 2 in the sec surpassing vols
Posted by apiratelifeforme
Jupiter
Member since Oct 2017
147 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 9:05 pm to

UT has a winning record against UGA
UT has a better all time winning % than UGA
UT has more National Championships than UGA
UT has more conference championships than UGA
UT has more all time wins than UGA
UT has more all-americans than UGA
UT has more NFL draft picks than UGA
UT has more weeks in the AP poll than UGA
UT has more weeks at #1 than UGA
Posted by apiratelifeforme
Jupiter
Member since Oct 2017
147 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 9:08 pm to
UT has a winning record against UF
UT has a better all time winning % than UF
UT has more National Championships than UF
UT has more conference championships than UF
UT has more all time wins than UF
UT has more all-americans than UF
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
18810 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 9:12 pm to
UF didn't play football before Spurrier...like Vandy, had never won an SEC Title.
Posted by tattoo
Fantasy Island
Member since Oct 2017
1805 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 10:41 pm to
IMO, LSU is 2nd or 3rd behind Bama. They are certainly as much in the conversation as UGA.

LSU is 2 behind UT and UGA in SECCs with 11.

After Bama won the first 2, LSU won the next 2 SECCs.

Bama has won at least one SECC in all 9 decades of the SEC's existence, LSU is tied with UGA for 2nd with 7 decades.

LSU is tied with UF for second behind Bama's 16 NCs with 3, UT and AU have 2 and UGA has 1. (Just counting wire service NCs since 1936, thus discounting Bama's bogus '41 claim and others who claim anything other than AP/Coaches.)

LSU is 2nd behind Bama in the SEC in the College Football Warehouse all time rankings. 10th nationally.

LSU is essentially tied for 3rd with UGA in all time winning %, 13th nationally.

Major bowl records, LSU 2nd behind Bama:
Alabama: 26-16-1
LSU: 11-11-1
UGA 10-8
UG 8-7
UT: 8-11
AU: 4-7-1

Records vs other SEC teams, LSU 2nd behind Bama:
Bama: 13-0
LSU: 9-3-1
UGA: 9-4
UT: 9-4
AU: 8-4-1
UF: 7-5-1

Really UT, UGA and LSU are about the same. LSU may have the edge because of winning more NCs and performing better on the big stage of major bowls and NCs than UT. UGA is right there with LSU in major bowls but only the 1 NC to LSU's 3.

While UF was better than many realize prior to Spurrier with several AP poll appearances prior, usually in the 15-20 range, they were never a major player, even at the conference level til then. They had a spectacular run during Spurrier and Meyer. In fact, only UT with Neyland and UF with Spurrier and Meyer have an SEC coach with a winning % of 80+. Each one of those coaches won NCs. This besides Bama who has 5: Wade, Thomas, Bryant, Stallings and Saban, all of whom also won NCs.

Anyway, LSU should not be ignored when considering number 2 in the conf, though they will continue to slip with Coach O. UT may stop the bleeding with Pruitt. UGA is likely to take over 2nd with Smart if he can just win one NC, surely if he wins 2, as they would be 2nd to Bama in NCs, SECCs and major bowl/playoff victories. They are close to being a lock for number 2, if they can follow through.
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