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re: Historically, who truly is 2nd best in the SEC behind Alabama?

Posted on 5/17/18 at 8:01 am to
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22345 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 8:01 am to
quote:

Where were they % wise at the end of Fulmer's last year (2008)? 2008 - 2017 is the worst 10 seasons in the history of UT football.


69.25

UT is down, UGA is up. It isn’t UT is down, UGA is the same. Which is what the guy I’m disagreeing with said. Like it or not.
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9056 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 8:06 am to
Since the first word of the OP title is "Historically" you have to take everything into account without a recency bias. So id say overall its TN...about 10-15 years ago it was very clear cut. But now its getting close

JMO
This post was edited on 5/17/18 at 8:11 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 8:08 am to
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Easily? Same number of SEC titles.

National Championships count.

quote:

1 NC in forever.

Nope. They have 4 in forever. History did not start 20 years ago, is my point.

quote:

We could easily eclipse them in every statistical category after this year.

Not in:
National Championships
All-Time Wins
All-Time win %

Those, to me are the most important statistical categories.

We probably won't pass them (but could) in:
Weeks at #1 in AP Poll

And can tie them in all time Conference Championships. (This would include other conference championships besides SEC.)

Historically does not count just the last 20 years. Or 30. Or 40. or 50. Historically means all time.


ETA
I will say that "easily" may been too strong of a word. I do tend to put a lot of weight on national Championships, though.
This post was edited on 5/17/18 at 8:11 am
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 10:42 am to
Auburn is the 2nd best at cheating.

LSU is the 2nd best at insecurity.

UF is the 2nd best at winning championships that anyone remembers.

UT is 2nd by basically every other metric.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 10:44 am to
Aggies clearly.

they so rich
Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
3963 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:06 am to
Tennessee
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:11 am to
Would have easily been UT even just 10 years ago but they decided to drop football for some unknown reason. Wonder what they do with all those football facilities they used to have? Maybe its all a bunch of basketball courts for intramurals.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:18 am to
Another poor decade and uga just might pass em in wins.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 1:53 pm to
Tennessee gets the edge over Georgia since they've won an actual title game.
The AP says it's Florida.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

They have 4 in forever.

Eh...
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39994 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 2:01 pm to
I'd go with UT until someone else steps up and knocks them off.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64606 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

I don't understand why people believe history started 20 years ago. Historically, Tennessee is 2nd easily. They have really slid the last 20 years, but historically? They are 2nd to Alabama all around.



This is the correct answer, followed by LSU/UGA being somewhat interchangeable, then Auburn/Florida, then followed by a huge gap by probably Arkansas/A&M
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86467 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 2:02 pm to
Yeah most people actually know it's UT, not sure what angle this new alter OP is going for.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64606 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

not sure what angle this new alter OP is going for.


to troll
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
5380 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 2:06 pm to
How can Florida dominate Tennessee and Georgia for the last 30 years, win more titles and SEC championship games then both combined and still get placed behind both? I get we sucked before Spurrier but don’t championships count for something? How much more do we have to do to catch them in your opinion? Are we just screwed because we started winning to late?
This post was edited on 5/17/18 at 2:07 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64606 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 2:08 pm to
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How can Florida dominate Tennessee and Georgia for the last 30 years, win more titles and SEC championship games then both combined and still get placed behind both?

because "historically" means all-time, not the last 30 years. There are another 80+ years those teams have been playing football.
quote:

How much more do we have to do to catch them in your opinion?

Winning 5 more SEC titles to match them would be a start
This post was edited on 5/17/18 at 2:10 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86467 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

How can Florida dominate Tennessee and Georgia for the last 30 years, win more titles and SEC championship games then both combined and still get placed behind both?


quote:

Historically,


quote:

we sucked before Spurrier


I mean you answered your own question dude
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
5380 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 2:10 pm to
So we will never pass Tennessee or Georgia because they had better teams before most of us were born? That doesn’t seem like the best way to decide who the 2nd best team in conference is. That’s just my opinion though.
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
5380 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 2:11 pm to
Then this question doesn’t even matter because it will be Bama and Tennessee as the top 2 for the next 30 years because they built up so much equity throughout the 40’s 50’s 60’s and 70’s. Is there anything Florida can do to catch up?
This post was edited on 5/17/18 at 2:13 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86467 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

How much more do we have to do to catch them in your opinion?


Well, we have:

more head to head wins
more all time wins
higher all time win %
more SEC titles
more bowl games
better bowl record

while UF has 1 more national title. It's not like it's outlandish to say we're a better all-time program

quote:

Are we just screwed because we started winning to late?


you aren't screwed, it's just going to take longer to overtake people who were winning long before you.

This isn't difficult.
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