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re: Heupel made some major head scratching decisions.
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:29 am to SemperFiDawg
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:29 am to SemperFiDawg
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That's a good explanation for what we witnessed, but if I'm a Vol I'm asking, "Isn't that being dogmatic to a fault?"
Yes, but system coaches do that. They have a system and they will rarely deviate from it because they believe in their system.
One of the best coaching moves I ever saw was Urban Meyer in his first year at UF. He was a system coach and ran his system at UF from the get go. But he didn't have the right players to run the system that year and struggled. So midway through the year (just before they played UGA), he adjusted. He stopped running the spread-option and put in a full-back and ran a pro-style offense that suited the talent he had rather than his personal preferred system and beat a UGA team who was favored.
He did keep trying to go back to his system (having Chris Leak who was NOT a runner carrying the ball for them). And by 2006 he had the players to fully go to his system again. But he at least realized that against some opponents he needed to put a FB in the game and let Leak be a pocket passer.
Most system based coaches can never do that.
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Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:29 am to Smokeyone
It was a 5 yard penalty. That kick was wide by more than 5 yards. You made a calculated decision to put it on a kicker that had never been in that situation before. College kickers do that sometimes...even good ones, let alone untested ones. Remember when Will Reicherd did it a couple years ago? Was that a fluke too?
This post was edited on 9/14/25 at 11:32 am
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:31 am to SaturdayNAthens
I’m not blaming the kicker…. The fluke presnap penalty is the root cause. shite happens.
You are just trying too hard now. It might be time to put the booze away and spend some time with other hobbies.
You are just trying too hard now. It might be time to put the booze away and spend some time with other hobbies.
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:32 am to Smokeyone
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So kicking was not the correct call? That was a head scratching decision for you.
Go collect your thoughts and figure out what you are trying to say.
LOL. I'll type slower so that you can understand.
The coaching strategy wasn't flawed. The missed kick (execution) was flawed.
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:33 am to Dawgs2122
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It was a 5 yard penalty. That kick was wide by more than 5 yards.
If it just about 5 yards then the supporting evidence would be short kick. The penalty disrupts the timing, flow, and decision making. The run a play don’t run a play, position on the field, etc.
Stop being simple and think.
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:34 am to SemperFiDawg
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Yep. I said to myself after the fumble recovery, Heupel is about to put a dagger in our heart and then the play calling left me grateful, but wondering, " Man, what the heck was he thinking?"
I do think he might be just a little gun shy given his previous outings vs Kirby, and that he’d definitely do it differently given another chance.
He seems to have figured out some things offensively and hopefully will be able to build on that in future meetings
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:35 am to New Money
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Heupel made some major head scratching decisions.
This is the thread you are posting in. I feel like that is lost on you somehow.
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:36 am to Smokeyone
Playing for the FG earlier in the 4th was where he fricked up.
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:38 am to DawginSC
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Yes, but system coaches do that. They have a system and they will rarely deviate from it because they believe in their system.
One of the best coaching moves I ever saw was Urban Meyer in his first year at UF. He was a system coach and ran his system at UF from the get go. But he didn't have the right players to run the system that year and struggled. So midway through the year (just before they played UGA), he adjusted. He stopped running the spread-option and put in a full-back and ran a pro-style offense that suited the talent he had rather than his personal preferred system and beat a UGA team who was favored.
He did keep trying to go back to his system (having Chris Leak who was NOT a runner carrying the ball for them). And by 2006 he had the players to fully go to his system again. But he at least realized that against some opponents he needed to put a FB in the game and let Leak be a pocket passer.
Most system based coaches can never do that.
This is part of the reason I was a big Mark Richt fan when he was at UGA. He came from being the OC at FSU where they rarely had FB's or TE's on the field, came to UGA and instead of running a system without having the talent he instead changed the offense he ran to suit his players. He wasn't a system guy, he was simply a very good offensive coache and could run whatever plays worked for his players.
Steve Spurrier was the same way... going from fun and gun at UF to a running based attack relying on play action at SC because those were the players SC had. He didn't care about the system, he just wanted to win and would run whatever gave his team the best option to do that.
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:39 am to Dawgfanman
Needed points, the situation dictated you take the simple points.
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:42 am to Rrrrroger
The penalty made him go conservative there. He wanted to at least make it an 8 point game. Defense had plenty of chances to stop them from bringing the game back even and he put them in position for a very manageable FG. Too much focus on Heupel when a lot of guys in orange had chances to seal the win.
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:43 am to WG_Dawg
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We couldn't stop 17 even if we would've put 5 guys on him.
And he was guilty of offensive PI on a few of those plays.
I.E. He pushed Harris at exactly the same time that Harris was leaping for the interception.
The ESPN analyst was full of crap.
My take on this game is that the betting odds were -3.5.
The total yardage was almost identical at the end of regulation.
Regulation ended at a 38-38 standoff.
Georgia earned the win by simply beating Tennessee in OT with the running game..
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:48 am to Smokeyone
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I feel like that is lost on you somehow.
I am disagreeing with the premise.
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:50 am to Smokeyone
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Needed points, the situation dictated you take the simple points.
Nobody is arguing for Heupel to have gone for it on 4th down or anything. Of course you take the points then. That isn't the point. The point is, uga's secondary played scared and like butt cheeks the entire game. Tenner's defense makes a play (Stockton fumble) and Heupel goes run run run FG. Why? It kept uga in the game. It was an all-time bad coaching decision not to throw passes to 17 and rip uga's heart out. Three jump balls to 17 would've been better than what he chose to do.
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:50 am to Smokeyone
I didn’t specifically say you were blaming the kicker. But I’ve seen enough online since the game ended and on some podcasts this morning to know this poor guy is becoming the scapegoat for your coach and team. And some of the comments are bordering on things that might need police attention.
Leave this kid alone. He feels bad. He did his best and should be patted on the back - not being harassed by a bunch of rednecks
Leave this kid alone. He feels bad. He did his best and should be patted on the back - not being harassed by a bunch of rednecks
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:51 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
Georgia scared??? Get real
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:52 am to SemperFiDawg
He always struggles at the end of the 330 games cuz it bleeds into his dinner hour and he can’t eat 10 hotdogs on camera.
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:53 am to SemperFiDawg
Not sure I can complain about either offense scoring over 40.
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:54 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
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Nobody is arguing for Heupel to have gone for it on 4th down or anything. Of course you take the points then. That isn't the point. The point is, uga's secondary played scared and like butt cheeks the entire game. Tenner's defense makes a play (Stockton fumble) and Heupel goes run run run FG. Why? It kept uga in the game. It was an all-time bad coaching decision not to throw passes to 17 and rip uga's heart out. Three jump balls to 17 would've been better than what he chose to do
bingo
Posted on 9/14/25 at 12:04 pm to SemperFiDawg
Sometimes the other team has a say in things. This is now 9 times in a row that the team had a say in things. Good ole Rocky Top!
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