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Here's the dirty secret: The SEC really isn't that strong this year.

Posted on 11/22/11 at 7:49 am
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 7:49 am
LA writer has some envy goin on.

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Here's the dirty secret: The SEC really isn't that strong this year. The East Division is OK at the top with Georgia and South Carolina. The rest of the division is a combined 20-24.

The SEC West isn't even that good beyond the top three. Auburn, Mississippi State and Mississippi are a combined 14-19.

The SEC has a stranglehold, though, because no one else has stepped up in the clutch.


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Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96508 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 7:49 am to
Apparently unless all 12 of your teams are in the top 25 you arent that good.
Posted by Swoopin
Member since Jun 2011
22041 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 7:49 am to
quote:

Auburn, Mississippi State and Mississippi are a combined 14-19




GD. Thanks yall
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
35476 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 7:51 am to
there is dropoff after LSU Bama, then a bigger gap between Ark and UGA, then a huge gap below that. the good teams have benefited.
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
16456 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 7:51 am to
well...I agree. It's really top heavy this year.
Posted by tigerburningbright75
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since May 2011
1123 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 7:58 am to
The SEC is still better than the Pac-12.
Posted by bona fide
Burma
Member since Jun 2010
8972 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 8:00 am to
When you have the top two or three teams in the country, it should be easy to understand why there is a drop off with the other teams.

quote:

the good teams have benefite


Some people were saying the same thing last year. Look what happened in the bowl games with the fourth and fifth place SECW teams.

What would middle of the pack teams(UCLA,WF,Iowa,Washington,etc.) be if they played in the SECW? Playing against LSU,Bama,ARK,MSU,au, and throw in a game or two against GA and USC.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
64570 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 8:01 am to
And yet, probably MNC, #6 in a row.
Posted by cheeriopiss
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2009
2142 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 8:01 am to
Of course the MSU, Ole Miss, and Aub will have bad records. That has to happen for the other teams in a division to have the records of LSU, ALA, Ark
Posted by The Nino
Member since Jan 2010
21721 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 8:07 am to
quote:

The SEC West isn't even that good beyond the top three. Auburn, Mississippi State and Mississippi are a combined 14-19.

Don't lump us in with the Mississippi schools! We have half those wins and only a fifth of those losses
Posted by thirdlawson
Nashville
Member since Oct 2011
9321 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 8:24 am to
quote:

Don't lump us in with the Mississippi schools! We have half those wins and only a fifth of those losses


Exactly, the worst we'll finish in the league is .500
Posted by Tiger Dominance
Bossier City, LA
Member since Oct 2007
500 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 8:25 am to
You know you're in a strong conference when critics look at the bottom teams rather than the top.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52837 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 8:27 am to
Using W-L records to determine how "good" a conference is?



let us suppose that ALL 12 teams were exact clones of LSU / Bama.

I would expect that each team would be very close to 4-4 in the conference.


So, by that logic, one could say "The SEC sucks...they do not have a single team with fewer than 4 losses."



sheeesh
This post was edited on 11/22/11 at 8:28 am
Posted by Boobie Miles
Knoxville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
305 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 8:29 am to
quote:

Of course the MSU, Ole Miss, and Aub will have bad records. That has to happen for the other teams in a division to have the records of LSU, ALA, Ark


This is true. Those schools all have another 3 losses, from the #1,2,3 teams in the BCS. So, their records look bad, but you can say those are all quality losses. (This is assuming Auburn loses to Bama this weekend too)
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88694 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 8:30 am to
This was funny:

quote:

The SEC West isn't even that good beyond the top three


So half the division isn't that good, but the other half is ranked 1,2,3. Yeah..the west sucks! I guess you need to have 2/3 of your division be good for it to get props.

This post was edited on 11/22/11 at 8:32 am
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22484 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 8:33 am to
Isn't that strong?... obviously the bottom half of the league is weak -- who's isn't?... but the top five of LSU, Bama, Ark, UGA, and SCe are better than anyone elses.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51196 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 8:38 am to
quote:

there is dropoff after LSU Bama, then a bigger gap between Ark and UGA, then a huge gap below that. the good teams have benefited.

Great analysis.
"Tool".
Befitting.
Posted by Boobie Miles
Knoxville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
305 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 8:40 am to
Haha PAC 12 standings:

Pacific-12 Standings
NORTH CONF OVERALL
* - Stanford 8-1 10-1
* - Oregon 7-1 9-2
* - Washington 4-4 6-5
* - California 3-5 6-5
x - Oregon State 3-5 3-8
x - Washington State 2-6 4-7

SOUTH CONF OVERALL
x - USC 6-2 9-2
* - UCLA 5-3 6-5
* - Arizona State 4-4 6-5
* - Utah 4-4 7-4
x - Arizona 2-7 3-8
x - Colorado 1-7 2-10
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
26169 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 8:42 am to
Come on guys. There is a lot of truth to this. KY, Van, Ole'Miss and Florida are just pitiful. MS State, AUB and Tenn are a little better. S.Car is a little better than that. After that is the top heavy GA, ARK, then LSU and Bama. I wouldn't roll any of the lower teams out as representatives of SEC football.
This post was edited on 11/22/11 at 8:43 am
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 8:43 am to
Yea if you remove the top 3 teams in the country, the SEC is no better than the Big 10 .
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