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re: Has there ever been a better example of change in CFB
Posted on 1/3/26 at 3:23 pm to NickPapageorgio
Posted on 1/3/26 at 3:23 pm to NickPapageorgio
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Good luck with that.
SCOTUS dont give a shite what coaches want.
It'll change once we make these players employees of the school and make them sign employment contracts with the university if they want to play for said university.
That's where this is eventually heading and SCOTUS won't be able to touch that with a 30 meter cattle prod.
This post was edited on 1/3/26 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 1/3/26 at 3:28 pm to theballguy
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It's as silly of a take as any political noob thinking that Democrats (or Republicans) are done and will never win another election again.
Bingo. Both sides need each other to villainize. There is no way on God’s green earth either political party goes extinct.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 3:31 pm to theballguy
That's not what he meant at all.
There was a time prior to NIL where only a handful of programs had won a title from between say 1980 and....now. It was the same list of teams year after year for years on end.
Bluebloods will be winning titles for sure.....most of them. But the Indiana, Oregon and Ole Miss type programs can get enough competitive talent to compete for a title. That has become obvious.
The top has come back to the pack a bit. It is what it is.
There was a time prior to NIL where only a handful of programs had won a title from between say 1980 and....now. It was the same list of teams year after year for years on end.
Bluebloods will be winning titles for sure.....most of them. But the Indiana, Oregon and Ole Miss type programs can get enough competitive talent to compete for a title. That has become obvious.
The top has come back to the pack a bit. It is what it is.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 3:34 pm to RollTide1987
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It'll change once we make these players employees of the school and make them sign employment contracts with the university if they want to play for said university.
Nothing will change about NIL.
Nothing.
Not even a little bit. Salary caps don't affect endorsements. Right to Earn law is a bitch.
And limiting portals is severely problematic due to Right to Work case law.
You'll need a CBA, a draft, structured free agency. Yeah, good luck.
This post was edited on 1/3/26 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 1/3/26 at 3:36 pm to NickPapageorgio
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You'll need a CBA, a draft, structured free agency. Yeah, good luck.
It'll happen eventually.
I'm sorry but the days of this fun for the little guy are limited. It'll be a few years but there are too many rich and important people who are unhappy with the current state of college football to include prominent politicians.
Case in point: how many people in Iowa are happy right now after Iowa State essentially got the death penalty after their head coach left for Penn State? They have 16 players remaining on their roster.
This post was edited on 1/3/26 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 1/3/26 at 3:47 pm to RollTide1987
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It'll be a few years but there are too many rich and important people who are unhappy with the current state of college football to include prominent politicians.
College football is more popular than ever before.
Opening up the top to the little guys is far more beneficial to the overall health of the sport.
Having only 10 or 15 programs ever capable of winning a title wasn't a "good" thing at all.
Oregon could never even get over the hump before NIL. Nike spent fortunes on facilities and salaries. But, let them pay the players......watch out now.
Players have a fundamental right, whether you like it or not, to act in their own best interests. Schools let any other student transfer mid semester. Athletes have the same right according to the Supreme Court of the United States.
It is the way it will be going forward.
This post was edited on 1/3/26 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 1/3/26 at 3:57 pm to NickPapageorgio
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Bluebloods will be winning titles for sure.....most of them. But the Indiana, Oregon and Ole Miss type programs can get enough competitive talent to compete for a title. That has become obvious.
First off, Oregon is very different from Ole Miss and Indiana. The fact that you're lumping them in together shows a lot.
Second, how is that any different than it's ever been?
Posted on 1/3/26 at 4:09 pm to SidewalkTiger
Oregon is a team that has never won a national championship. They play in a 55k seat stadium.
They will though, thanks to the portal and NIL. If not this year, this decade.
Indiana is the 2nd most losing program all time. They play in a 55k seat stadium. Never won a national championship of any kind. However, they have the largest alumni base in the nation and a few donors who have been spending big.
Nothing has changed man. Everything is exactly as it was a decade ago.
They will though, thanks to the portal and NIL. If not this year, this decade.
Indiana is the 2nd most losing program all time. They play in a 55k seat stadium. Never won a national championship of any kind. However, they have the largest alumni base in the nation and a few donors who have been spending big.
Nothing has changed man. Everything is exactly as it was a decade ago.
This post was edited on 1/3/26 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 1/3/26 at 4:10 pm to NickPapageorgio
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The top has come back to the pack a bit.
I agree
For now.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 4:32 pm to DarthRebel
Miami has quite a few national titles that are not from befor colored TVs, so that isn't crazy at all. Oregon has nike money..so not surprised at all. More shocked they don't dominate CFB honestly.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 6:00 pm to NickPapageorgio
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However, they have the largest alumni base in the nation a
Indian wouldn't even be in the top 20 of alumni base in the country. Where in the hell did you pull that from?
Posted on 1/3/26 at 6:06 pm to DarthRebel
NIL and transfer portal completely changed the game.
Used to be regional schools with the Florida, Texas, Deep South recruiting talent that stayed in the SEC.
You can’t convince me Indiana kids are leading that team…they don’t have highschools like North Shore or IMG.
Used to be regional schools with the Florida, Texas, Deep South recruiting talent that stayed in the SEC.
You can’t convince me Indiana kids are leading that team…they don’t have highschools like North Shore or IMG.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 6:09 pm to DarthRebel
It’s the portal. All these teams are great at the portal.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 6:16 pm to NickPapageorgio
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College football is more popular than ever before. Opening up the top to the little guys is far more beneficial to the overall health of the sport. Having only 10 or 15 programs ever capable of winning a title wasn't a "good" thing at all. Oregon could never even get over the hump before NIL. Nike spent fortunes on facilities and salaries. But, let them pay the players......watch out now. Players have a fundamental right, whether you like it or not, to act in their own best interests. Schools let any other student transfer mid semester. Athletes have the same right according to the Supreme Court of the United States. It is the way it will be going forward.
Popular? Or lucrative?
The increased numbers are based on a heavily researched NFL model that simply added weeks of viewing and thus, advertising dollars.
And in the process, what separated pro and collegiate sports disolved and we lost the best regular season that existed in sports. For NFL light.
It isn’t more popular. It’s a longer lasting, more expensive bucket of flaming d!cks.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:25 pm to DarthRebel
quote:Yeah, I’d expect football teams to increasingly be made up of men who aren’t good enough to get a high draft grade, but are valuable as “college” players. Basically, the XFL with college logos.
Welcome to NCAA men's soccer. Incoming European "freshmen" are 21.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 10:01 pm to RollTide1987
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NIL didn't change anything. It's the transfer portal.
What do you think DRIVES the transfer portal? Hint: it starts with an N and ends with an L. The promise of quick riches has destroyed any school/team loyalty that ever existed. It's an avalanche that will be tough to stop.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 11:49 pm to RollTide1987
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It'll change once we make these players employees of the school and make them sign employment contracts with the university if they want to play for said university.
Except when schools do not sign on to do that. Then if forced upon other schools, welcome to round 2 of litigation.
There are too many schools to control under NCAA. It is going to require SEC and Big10 to probably form their own semi-pro league.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 2:06 am to DarthRebel
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A school like Indiana can out spend an Alabama, LSU or Texas if needed.
They do get $11 million more TV money each year than SEC schools. That will buy you some game changers.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 2:17 am to RollTide1987
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Not at Indiana. This new model is what has allowed schools like the Hoosiers to come seemingly out of nowhere and thrive. Almost 70% of his roster is made up of transfers and the average age of his offense is 22.5, just about all of whom have been playing FBS football for the last 4-5 years.
You can't do that shite without the transfer portal as it's set up right now.
Imagine if Indiana adds Pavia to their roster next season. It would automatically raise the mean age level to 30 for the entire team.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 2:18 am to NickPapageorgio
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Oregon is a team that has never won a national championship. They play in a 55k seat stadium.
That's cool. But they have Nike money and have played for multiple national championships before NIL and the portal were ever thought of.
They aren't some Cinderella team.
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Indiana is the 2nd most losing program all time. They play in a 55k seat stadium. Never won a national championship of any kind.
They have a great coach who has built a great culture. It isn't like they're out there buying all stars.
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However, they have the largest alumni base in the nation
Um no.
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Nothing has changed man. Everything is exactly as it was a decade ago.
It's really no different than when Clemson suddenly appeared on the scene and won two natties, long before NIL and the portal.
You're just overreacting to the portal and NIL because your confirmation bias tells you they changed everything.
Also, a team making a 12 team playoff makes folks believe they accomplished some big thing versus just finishing top 10 and making a BCS/NY6 bowl like they would have in the past.
You probably thought TCU was the next big dog when they played for a natty a few years ago too.
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