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Has the CFP made it easier or harder to win a national championship?

Posted on 2/8/18 at 2:07 pm
Posted by ZeusStamos
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2017
1567 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 2:07 pm
Argument 1: It's easier.

During the BCS era, outside of when LSU won it all in '07, you needed a near perfect season just to get into the NC. You could actually go undefeated, win your Power 5 (then BCS) conference, and still get left out of the game. I'm sure Auburn fans are still pissed about that '04 team. And if you weren't Alabama, like UGA in '07, you would get penalized for not winning your conference (LSU jumped UGA that year to get into the NC game because they were SEC Champs). Alabama obviously doesn't even need to win their division to get into the game regardless of the system, but every other team had to win their conference to get in during the BCS era.
In the CFP era, there have been multiple teams that have not even won their division that have gotten into the playoff. All of this evidence points to the fact that the CFP makes it easier.

Argument 2: It's harder.
I'm convinced that more often than not, especially when the SEC went on its dominant run of consecutive national championships, one of the teams in the BCS championship game didn't really deserve to be there. The two best teams often didn't play each other. This was most evident when Alabama absolutely destroyed Notre Dame in 2012-13. Many believed that the real national championship that year was played in Atlanta when Bama took on UGA. During the latter years of the BCS era, it was actually harder to win the SEC than it was to win the national championship.

The CFP basically ensures that you will have to play and beat the real second best team in the country to win a national championship. And it means more tough games against really tough opponents that require you to potentially travel across country on short rest.

Ultimately, my opinion is that the CFP makes it harder for every team not named Bama because you actually determine who the best team is on the field. It's not a "mythical" national championship.
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 2:58 pm
Posted by rich4pres
Knoxville
Member since Dec 2016
9761 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 2:15 pm to
Georgia couldn’t win one before the playoff and they couldn’t win one after. Why does it matter to Georgia fans.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 2:15 pm to
Easier to get in, harder to win.
Posted by ZeusStamos
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2017
1567 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

Georgia couldn’t win one before the playoff and they couldn’t win one after. Why does it matter to Georgia fans.


Will your team win 3 or 4 games next year?
Posted by thomasbrown_2007
Atlanta,Ga
Member since Oct 2014
2995 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 2:17 pm to
Lol a tenn fan talking about playoffs. Comical. They cant even win 6 games
Posted by rich4pres
Knoxville
Member since Dec 2016
9761 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 2:18 pm to
1980 Dawg. 1980
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
35953 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 2:18 pm to
It's harder, just ask Georgia or Oklahoma. If the BCS system was still in place, one of those two would have played Clemson and likely beaten them to win it all.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16538 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

Argument 1: It's easier


This. You don't even have to win your division to win the NC.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66352 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 2:19 pm to
I am Going to go with slightly easier

Yes you have to win 1 more game, but someone has to.

What it does is gives you a better chance of a chance to play for it.

Only 1 team will ever win, but I would 4 teams have a chance at the end of the season over 2.

He’ll tOSU and Alabama we’re lower sears that wouldn’t have played on a BCSNCG
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 2:22 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

Ultimately, my opinion is that the CFP makes it harder for every team not named Bama because you actually determine who the best team is on the field



They literally created this new system because they were so angry about us and all we've done is dominate it too.

Create whatever you want. 2, 8, 64. Whatever. We'll be better than everyone else at that too.

This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 2:22 pm
Posted by thomasbrown_2007
Atlanta,Ga
Member since Oct 2014
2995 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 2:21 pm to
1998 yellow starburst. A title is a title. At least we have done something since then..how about the vols since 1998??
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

Georgia couldn’t win one before the playoff


we have zero titles from 1892 - 2013? News to me.
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

we have zero titles from 1892 - 2013? News to me.


you have 1980. That is it.
Posted by thomasbrown_2007
Atlanta,Ga
Member since Oct 2014
2995 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 2:24 pm to
1942 as well
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84831 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 2:24 pm to
by definition it's easier bc there's more room for error
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84831 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

1942 as well


ole Wally Butts

you'd think a Bama fan would know that
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

It's harder, just ask Georgia or Oklahoma. If the BCS system was still in place, one of those two would have played Clemson


We would have been 3rd, so in the BCS we would not have played for a title.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

by definition it's easier bc there's more room for error


Easier to get there, harder to win.

Beating 2 Top 4 teams in 8 days away from home is incredibly difficult, no matter who you are.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 2:26 pm to
if we count the way everyone else does we have 5. If we are at least somewhat ethical with the whole thing we have 2.

Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

1942 as well




Sorry but nobody outside of Athens recognizes this. It was so laughable it was even discussed on the broadcast during the game by Herbie and Fowler.
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