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re: Has anyone seen the racist letter sent to Sumlin and is it real?

Posted on 10/29/17 at 11:54 am to
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
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Posted on 10/29/17 at 11:54 am to
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I'll accept that correction. People are dumb, no matter the color.

I find it very hard to believe the Sumlin family wrote the letter though





I can accept that the "Sumlins" didnt write it but I cant accept that it is a big deal.

People get hate mail all the time. I am sure that all coaches or a big portion of them get hate mail. Why is his a bigger deal just because it was racist?


Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
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Posted on 10/29/17 at 11:55 am to
That's right. It was not done with any forethought. Just like the letter. It looked like it was hastily thrown together.
Posted by AginAL
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/29/17 at 11:56 am to
The university is keeping it under wraps. Rumor is it was written by elderly female wife of a prominent Aggie alumni donor. She has mental health and/or dementia issues.
Posted by PuddinPopPharmacist
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 10/29/17 at 11:57 am to
There has been a lot of hate hoaxes lately. It seems like more turn out to be hoaxes than real. Also, the letter did not appear to have a cancelation mark. If it is real, someone put a stamp on it and hand delivered it to their mailbox instead of just mailing it, which seems unrealistic if you don’t want to get caught.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 10/29/17 at 11:59 am to
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That's right. It was not done with any forethought. Just like the letter. It looked like it was hastily thrown together.


So the reasoning his wife did it is it was done in a fit of rage/passion? While i won't say it's impossible his wife did it, i am saying it's highly implausible and for this to be the top theory is quite ridiculous.
Posted by cyde
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Posted on 10/29/17 at 12:01 pm to
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Rumor is it was written by elderly female wife of a prominent Aggie alumni donor. She has mental health and/or dementia issues.
There we go. I can actually see that.

Elderly southerners (of both races) can be racist af. Hell, they don't even necessarily mean it maliciously; they're simply a product of their era.

It's better to accept that we have some fricked up people than to sit around claiming aliens did it or something.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/29/17 at 12:02 pm to
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Rumor is it was written by elderly female wife of a prominent Aggie alumni donor. She has mental health and/or dementia issues.
There we go. I can actually see that.





The butler did it in the study with the candle stick.


You are better than this.
Posted by HarryBalzack
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Posted on 10/29/17 at 12:06 pm to
Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
Member since Feb 2015
6839 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 12:06 pm to
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While i won't say it's impossible his wife did it, i am saying it's highly implausible and for this to be the top theory is quite ridiculous.


It's highly implausible? Argue your point. Please.
Posted by cyde
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Posted on 10/29/17 at 12:08 pm to
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The butler did it in the study with the candle stick.
I don't necessarily buy the dementia claim, because it still fosters that whole "no aggy in his right mind would ever be racist towards another aggy!" mentality. It's like taking ownership of their own bullshite, but with a caveat. It's a step in the right direction.
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 10/29/17 at 12:13 pm to
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The only thing we can be sure of is that they received the letter. Who sent it? I have no idea. But whoever sent it, they are an idiot.



Not saying it is anything but deplorable, but all public figures get absurd correspondence in numerous forms. However, the Sumlins used it in order to switch the focus from his absolute shitty coaching job to something to elicit sympathy. Nice marketing attempt, but transparent as hell.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 10/29/17 at 12:14 pm to
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Dallasgrowl
Agreed.

Which is why I believe it was done by the wife.
Posted by cyde
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Posted on 10/29/17 at 12:16 pm to
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Not saying it is anything but deplorable, but all public figures get absurd correspondence in numerous forms. However, the Sumlins used it in order to switch the focus from his absolute shitty coaching job to something to elicit sympathy.
Nailed it.

Sure, he got the letter. Sure it was racist, and it was probably a pretty red assed aggy who sent it. It should definitely be addressed...


...but what does it have to do with Rumlin being a shitty coach?
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7231 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 12:16 pm to
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It's highly implausible? Argue your point. Please.


I think i have several times in this thread, but here it is summed up:

1) Sumlin has an $11MM buyout. The wife put that in jeapordy by doing this.

2) her main motivation to write this was to deflect from criticism her husband was receiving. All coaches get this type of criticism when they do poorly (black or white). Not that big of a deal considering sumlin has been on the hot seat since last season and his buyout is huge.

3) the sumlin family launched a full blown investigation in to this. Why bring in police and pursue charges against the person if that person is you? Why not just say this was horrible and we want to just move on. It accomplishes the same thing with no police involvement.

4) when presented with all the logical choices of who did this (troll, racist person, sumlin family) why does his wife seem to be the most logical option to jump to?

5) why would his wife do all this to keep her and her family at a place that doesn't want them there? Just to stick it to them? Why not take the buyout money and your family cam move on to something else?
Posted by cyde
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Posted on 10/29/17 at 12:17 pm to
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Which is why I believe it was done by the wife.
I think it was fake army that did it.
Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 10/29/17 at 12:38 pm to
1) Not a legitimate rebuttal. That's the equivalent of a defense attorney stating his client must be innocent, because the consequences would involve jail or worse.

2) This requires forethought. Given the hastily scrawled letter, with poor syntax, there was no forethought put into the letter. So why do we give the writer, either the wife or someone else, the benefit of the doubt and believe they had the wherewithal to think through the repercussions?

3) Save face. Hastily throw out a fake hate letter, the world gets behind you, and you are forced to take action in order to "find the perpetrator".

4) For me it is the way the note is written. That's what started me on the idea that it was a fake. The other inconsistencies only enforce that.

5) I think it was reactionary. There was no logical train of thought.
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 10/29/17 at 12:41 pm to
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3) the sumlin family launched a full blown investigation in to this. Why bring in police and pursue charges against the person if that person is you? Why not just say this was horrible and we want to just move on. It accomplishes the same thing with no police involvement.


And what has been the outcome of this? That's what is leaving this all in limbo. If this were true then I would think the CS Police would have figured it out by now. Not like we are talking about an ordinary local citizen.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 10/29/17 at 12:41 pm to
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fake army
Bastard
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 10/29/17 at 12:43 pm to
Believe what you want. I will put a ban bet on it not being the wife if you are that certain. How 'bout it?
Posted by cyde
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Posted on 10/29/17 at 12:50 pm to
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Bastard
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