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re: Has anyone seen the racist letter sent to Sumlin and is it real?
Posted on 10/29/17 at 2:37 pm to SamuelClemens
Posted on 10/29/17 at 2:37 pm to SamuelClemens
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Posted on 10/29/17 at 2:38 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
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Are you a chick?
I'm a dude. I only went to hospice because they made me an offer I couldn't refuse. My hours are minimal, pay is high, and I can finish working toward my DNP.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 2:40 pm to Tiger Tracker
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Your response is not really an (good) answer. He still gets his buyout money regardless of how poorly he does and someone else will likely hire Sumlin. Maybe as an OC or lower tier HC. Even if they don't, he gets his $11MM buyout without the hate from a fanbase that doesn't want him there.
What I thought I implied is that he will never be hired as a head coach of a major program again. Certainly not for the money he makes now.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 2:42 pm to Wolfhound45
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Recommendation is that you abandon logic and reason as the centerpiece of your argument.
That's a horrible idea. You're suggesting i don't use reason and logic when trying to determine if someone is guilty or innocent.
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A person that does something like that does not have the faculties for either.
Well if it was the wife then you're reasoning is counter intuitive. You say that we throw out logic and reason, but assuming the wife crafted this hoax means she must have planned it out and reasoned out what the outcome would be i.e. police investigations. Which means she would have had to have planned not to get caught right? Otherwise, the police would have already been able to trace it back to her. People who do this type of shite with zero planning get caught fast.
So either she did it and carefully planned it out, which means she likely thought about the reprecussions, or she did it emotionally without thought, which would likely mean she would have been ousted by now.
Or...she didn't do it. However, It doesn't make sense to say she did it emotionally without thinking but somehow covered her tracks well enough not to be caught.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 2:44 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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What I thought I implied is that he will never be hired as a head coach of a major program again.
That maybe the case. He would DEFINITELY never be hired as a HC if his wife wrote a race baiting letter to keep him hired.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 2:46 pm to MadDoggyStyle
Yes, but the team will rally around Sumlin and beat AU this week. Job saved.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 2:55 pm to Prometheus
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Yes, but the team will rally around Sumlin and beat AU this week. Job saved.
Yeah, let's just ignore the fact that the home team has lost every game between A&M and Auburn, including the favorite losing the last four games.
This post was edited on 10/29/17 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 10/29/17 at 2:56 pm to Tiger Tracker
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That maybe the case. He would DEFINITELY never be hired as a HC if his wife wrote a race baiting letter to keep him hired.
Or in light of the Kaepernick/McNair etc. bullshite, she's trying to use the threat of racism to get her husband an extension.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 3:05 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Or in light of the Kaepernick/McNair etc. bullshite, she's trying to use the threat of racism to get her husband an extension.
Mcnair happened after the letter so it's not really applicable here, but ignoring that, how would he get an extension out of this? Again, the guy has a contract through 2020 with a $11MM buyout. How would this stunt get him more money than he is making. It's not like his contract is almost up or anything.
Andvto say it again, when people in the media tried running the racism narrative when Charlie was going to be fired did that stop UT from making a move? No because shitty results will get you fired, period. No amount of fake racism will save you from poor results on the field.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 3:12 pm to Tiger Tracker
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Again, the guy has a contract through 2020 with a $11MM buyout. How would this stunt get him more money than he is making. It's not like his contract is almost up or anything.
2019. There's an unwritten rule that you don't keep a coach in place with 2 years or fewer left on his contract without an extension or you give the impression that he's a lame duck.
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Andvto say it again, when people in the media tried running the racism narrative when Charlie was going to be fired did that stop UT from making a move? No because shitty results will get you fired, period. No amount of fake racism will save you from poor results on the field.
Actually the media did NOT run the racism narrative with Charlie Strong. Not even close. Nor did the Strong family attempt to pull a stunt like the Sumlins are doing...and there were PUBLIC racist comments about him by Red McCombs. What Strong faced at t.u. was FAR worse than how Sumlin is treated by A&M, yet he took the high road.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 3:29 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Auburn will be favored, so something will give and Gus is good at giving.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 3:41 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Actually the media did NOT run the racism narrative with Charlie Strong. Not even close. Nor did the Strong family attempt to pull a stunt like the Sumlins are doing...and there were PUBLIC racist comments about him by Red McCombs. What Strong faced at t.u. was FAR worse than how Sumlin is treated by A&M, yet he took the high road.
OK. I am done with this. Too much time wasted on this anyway. In the above quote you:
1) say the sumlins are guilty of something you have zero proof of.
2) prove my point. According to you, there wasn't even fake racism, re:Strong, it was real and yet he still got fired (hired a white guy too). The world kept turning. UT football is still happening with no major backlash. So thank you for proving my point that, even when faced with real racism, football coaches aren't safe from being fired if they do a shitty job.
You have obviously made up your mind on who the guilty party is without any real evidence to come to said conclusion. so there's no point in carrying on the conversation as your opinion of who is guilty is rooted in your personal beliefs/ideals about the sumlins as people and no real evidence that backs it up.
I will close this discussion by freely admitting you may be right in the end. It's possible she did it for sure, but it's disturbing how many people have blamed the victims here before any real information has come to light regarding the investigation. Let alone any evidence implicating her in any of this.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 3:49 pm to Tiger Tracker
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1) say the sumlins are guilty of something you have zero proof of.
What Charlene Sumlin is guilty of is posting the letter, then strongly implying (by NOT disassociating the guilty party from the school and community who have made her family ridiculously wealthy and given her husband everything and more that he needs to be successful) that every Aggie is racist and that anyone critical of her husband is racist as well.
To this date, she has STILL not budged from that insinuation despite many opportunities to do so. Even in her follow-up tweet on September 10th, she shits all over the A&M community.
This post was edited on 10/29/17 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 10/29/17 at 4:18 pm to MadDoggyStyle
She turned the letter over to federal authorities (cant remember which agency). Do you honestly think she would risk everything by lying not only to the public but law enforcement as well just to publicize a fake racist letter that may or may not generate sympathy?
Posted on 10/29/17 at 4:44 pm to StopRobot
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federal authorities
You mean the BCSD?
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may or may not generate sympathy?
You mean which actually generated a ton of sympathy?
Posted on 10/29/17 at 4:49 pm to Rougarou13
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You mean which actually generated a ton of sympathy?
ESPN still had their minstrel troupe of Rod Gilmore and Mark Jones talking about that letter last night as soon as it looked like Sumlin was about to go on the hot seat again.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 5:28 pm to Rougarou13
Posted on 10/29/17 at 7:59 pm to OldSchoolHorn
If I had to guess, I would say a woman wrote that letter. So, it appears to have a Houston return address from Potomac?
Posted on 10/29/17 at 8:23 pm to MadDoggyStyle
The address is from the Houston Country Club, which is why we suspect that it's fake, as the HCC was underwater at the time of the letter.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 8:36 pm to MadDoggyStyle
According to the rant.
Black coach... If bad, deserves racist letters.
Racist letter writer... Must be black coach's family.
If you believe that, die...
It's clearly a racist retard, regardless of their motivation.
Black coach... If bad, deserves racist letters.
Racist letter writer... Must be black coach's family.
If you believe that, die...
It's clearly a racist retard, regardless of their motivation.
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