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re: Great article about Nick Saban crying now that Bama is no longer competitive.

Posted on 5/1/26 at 2:06 pm to
Posted by BigAL Golesh
Member since Apr 2026
341 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 2:06 pm to
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Nothing was stopping other schools from doing what Nick Saban and Alabama did
paying players, free suits, free cars, parents put up in lake houses, duffle bags full of cash, free rims, pay for play, signing bonuses....

NCAA rules damn sure didnt stop bama and saban from cheating thanks to Mike Slive and Mark Emmert. bama fans acting like they didnt cheat will always be laughable
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71337 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 2:10 pm to
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NCAA rules damn sure didnt stop bama and saban from cheating thanks to Mike Slive and Mark Emmert. bama fans acting like they didnt cheat will always be laughable


I never said Alabama didn't cheat. However, luring players to a school (whether due to name recognition or pay for play) is only part of the battle. You still have to instill a culture of excellence, convince them to be part of a team and not just play there for a bag, develop them, coach them, and have them understand mid-game and halftime adjustments when things aren't going so well in-situ.

SMU in the 80s was the KING of paying players to come to play for them in Dallas. Do you know how many national championships that bought them? Zero.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
78004 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 2:23 pm to
Gumps are still in denial. Repost this in December.
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
4274 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 2:23 pm to
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Im not anywhere close to a Bama fan but they won the mythical SEC regular season title in 25


This hasn’t been a thing for over thirty years.

Posted by Jauquismos
Member since Jul 2023
988 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 2:24 pm to
He's such a liberal puss
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
2246 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 2:49 pm to
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SMU in the 80s was the KING of paying players to come to play for them in Dallas. Do you know how many national championships that bought them? Zero.


Screwed out of the 82 title, only unbeaten team that season
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
2246 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 2:50 pm to
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SMU in the 80s was the KING of paying players to come to play for them in Dallas.


Didn't they also play in Texas Stadium a bunch at the time? Damn, you get that, stud players, and money, that's a hard combo to beat
Posted by Windy City
Member since Jun 2019
2293 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 2:58 pm to
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Didn't they also play in Texas Stadium a bunch at the time? Damn, you get that, stud players, and money, that's a hard combo to beat


Having grown up with it all and watching the aftermath, Texas Governor Bill Clements is still my favorite character.

He comes in to quietly clean it all up and is told the program "has a payroll to meet" so Clements then argues it would be dishonorable to walk back such contractual obligations.

He then stiff arms the University President telling home to focus on running the University business. "Calm down and don't be so self-righteous."


Posted by pgaddxn
between here and there
Member since Jul 2008
1849 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 2:59 pm to
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won a CFP game.


Gifted an elimination game appearance against another sec team to get more geographical eyes on the playoffs. You are a fricking dolt if you think for one second you are still competitive. I guarantee LSU and most of the big 6 stomp bama out this year.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71337 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 3:04 pm to
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Screwed out of the 82 title, only unbeaten team that season



That is true. However, SMU beat only one team in the regular season (Texas) that finished with a winning record. They tied the only other team with a winning record (Arkansas) they played that season.

Meanwhile, Penn State played and beat Maryland (8-4), Nebraska (12-1), West Virginia (9-3), Boston College (8-3-1), NC State (6-5), Notre Dame (6-4-1), and Pittsburgh (9-3) in the regular season. Yeah, they had an ugly loss to an eventual 8-4 Alabama team, but that game was against Bear Bryant at Legion Field.

Penn State played an exponentially tougher schedule and defeated top-ranked, and undefeated, Georgia in the Sugar Bowl. While they had a blemish on their record, their strength of schedule more than makes up for it when comparing resumes with 1982 SMU.
Posted by RunningJacket
Member since Dec 2008
982 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 3:04 pm to
SMU was just getting started which is why the SEC had the NCAA take them out. If SMU had gotten the Bama treatment they’d have multiple Natties by now. It takes a while to get the system rolling and maintaining it. Even Bama had some down years.
Posted by Windy City
Member since Jun 2019
2293 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 3:05 pm to
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Screwed out of the 82 title, only unbeaten team that season


If I recall . . Penn State had lost t#4 Bama team but the pollsters thought they played a much tougher schedule and they finished by beating #1 Georgia in the Sugar Bowl.

I can see it. That Nittany Lions squad beat #2 Nebraska, #13 West Virginia, #13 Notre Dame, #5 Pitt, and #1 Georgia.

SMU had played only two ranked teams, beating #19 Texas and finishing with a tie against #9 Arkansas and beating #6 Pitt in the Cotton Bowl.

EDIT - Looks like RollTide beat me to this.



This post was edited on 5/1/26 at 3:06 pm
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19641 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 3:11 pm to
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paying players, free suits, free cars, parents put up in lake houses, duffle bags full of cash, free rims, pay for play, signing bonuses....

NCAA rules damn sure didnt stop bama and saban from cheating thanks to Mike Slive and Mark Emmert. bama fans acting like they didnt cheat will always be laughable


Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
24565 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 3:12 pm to
Nick Saban wrecked a lot of people.
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
2246 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 12:07 pm to
Ari's right you know

Also, all these guardrails and shite he's talking about wouldn't afford his best Bama teams a decade ago - that team would probably cost like $100 million not $50 million
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
2246 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 12:14 pm to
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SMU was just getting started which is why the SEC had the NCAA take them out. If SMU had gotten the Bama treatment they’d have multiple Natties by now. It takes a while to get the system rolling and maintaining it. Even Bama had some down years.


Fair but lets face facts at the end of the day

They had Bobby fricking Collins as their head coach, if Ron Meyer had stayed, hed be a college football coaching legend - Collins just wasn't the coach for SMU to sustain greatness and it showed his final 2 seasons there
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
22606 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 12:21 pm to
Weakass alter.

856
12/22/2008
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
27031 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 12:43 pm to
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Funny he created the largest stockpile of unfair advantage thru talent in Modern football history only to whine about fairness once the field has been leveled...


Well Kirby is doing the same thing.
Posted by MFTPC
Member since Apr 2026
83 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 12:46 pm to
I knew the loss of Saban and rise of NIL would be really bad for bama but I still can’t get over their humiliation at the hands of Indiana. It was like the Hoosiers were playing a division 2 team.
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
2246 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 12:57 pm to
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Well Kirby is doing the same thing.


I think his 2021 and 2022 teams would've destroyed his current Georgia teams

His 2017 Georgia team would probably cost around $100 million to assemble
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