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re: Grad transfer quarterbacks

Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:36 am to
Posted by Sampson
Chicago
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:36 am to
They’re also extremely rare, especially between major programs at the QB position.

However if I’m going to be optimistic in that situation, it’s going to be when the guy sat behind one of the most prolific players to ever play for 2 years (Barrett) while being developed by arguably the games best QB coach, and almost beating out what most agree is a future first round pick (Haskins) with the fan base split on who should start.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14055 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:42 am to
quote:

Etling had a 150+ passer rating last year, to say he brought no value is just not intelligent


Fine i'll say it this way.

Danny etling was not a game changer at all. He didn't elevate his team. He wasn't clutch and if he had a "wow" moment, i can't think of it.

If you want to put a finer point on it, ok.

I guess he had "value" in this sense, he kept lsu out of the red but if danny etling is what folks can expect from a grad transfer quarterback, other than keeping lsu above .500, then no there's no value.
This post was edited on 6/30/18 at 9:44 am
Posted by lsu711
Member since Sep 2003
13041 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:42 am to
Greg Paulus. Clint Trickett. Garrett Gilbert. Tyler Murphy. Ben Mauck.

None were lucky enough to transfer to Bama, but they were all successful.

Burrow is more of a true transfer who happened to RS and graduate early. There are plenty of transfers who had great success.
This post was edited on 6/30/18 at 9:43 am
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:43 am to
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Just curious, are you upset that that your starting QB couldn't win the championship game last year and it took the backup QB to do it?


LOL

Dude, we are so angry about that. Lemme just tell ya.
Posted by SmokeTide
Gulf Coast Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
5287 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:47 am to
It's little the things they hold on to, you know. You can tell when one of them strays over from Tiger Rant. First series of posts will be "Insecure U" "sisterwives" "10-2"
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8615 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:48 am to
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Grad transfer quarterbacks


Another "I don't like LSU fans being hopeful" alambama fan thread.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26259 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:49 am to
OP: Do any grad transfer QBs ever work out?
Yes, XYZ did
OP: Ok, but they didn't bring anything of value.
They did actually, here are their stats
OP: Ok, but they were never game changers or had "wow moments"
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14055 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:57 am to
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Greg Paulus. Clint Trickett. Garrett Gilbert. Tyler Murphy. Ben Mauck. 


Were they all grad transfers?

If they were i'll take your word for it.

I'll try to put this in a different sorta context.

The lsu fanbase is split on this joe burrow thing. Some believe he'll elevate the team to something meaningful. Others don't believe his presence will matter.

The latter is probably more on the mark when you consider the largely unimpressive results teams have with grad transfer quarterbacks.

There are only two instances i can think of where grad transfer QB's actually elevated a team or mattered in a significant way.

Here's a nugget for you.

The over/under for lsu in april, before burrow was 7.5. The over/under now, after burrow's arrival is 7.

Burrow's presence did move the needle....In the wrong direction.

I'm speaking purely in a practical sense. Other than wilson and coker, when has a grad transfer QB mattered all that much to a team?
This post was edited on 6/30/18 at 9:58 am
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
18003 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:58 am to
Talk about moving the goalposts
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
10894 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:58 am to
Not really an apples to apples thread subject. None of those quarterbacks had orgeron to coach them up after transferring.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:00 am to
quote:

I guess he had "value" in this sense, he kept lsu out of the red but if danny etling is what folks can expect from a grad transfer quarterback, other than keeping lsu above .500, then no there's no value.



This is stupid. If it wasn't for Etling then Harris would have started for two years and we probably would have been even worse on offense.

It's not value like Wilson brought to Wisconsin but he still wound up being a better option than the QBs that were already here.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
28974 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:01 am to
Bama fans scared over an "Urban Meyer hand me down". Love it.
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
18003 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:02 am to
quote:

I'll try to put this in a different sorta context. The lsu fanbase is split on this joe burrow thing. Some believe he'll elevate the team to something meaningful. Others don't believe his presence will matter.


Maybe you should of made this the original post instead of going through all of these mental girations and goal post moving?
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
18723 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:03 am to
quote:

quote:
And i'm speaking specifically about grad transfers, not juco or under grad transfers.



Just saw this qualifier. What a weird thread


Yep!! Usually bama fans don't have issues asking specific questions regarding LSU.
Posted by Sampson
Chicago
Member since Mar 2012
24561 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:03 am to
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Others don't believe his presence will matter.


Ahhhh the moron who started that thread currently on the tiger rant triggered your thread

99.99 % of LSU fans not only believe his presence matters, but that he is a major upgrade from our other options and for all the reasons I’ve listed that you haven’t responded to.
This post was edited on 6/30/18 at 10:15 am
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14055 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:07 am to
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This is stupid. If it wasn't for Etling then Harris would have started for two years and we probably would have been even worse on offense. 



Yes, that's the point i'm making. Additionally, you're expectimg more than that out of burrow. My question is this. Other than wilson and coker, when do grad transfer QB's do much more than danny did at lsu?
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:08 am to
quote:

Additionally, you're expectimg more than that out of burrow


No I'm not
Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
14146 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:09 am to
Why don’t you just edit this thread and say what you really want to instead of beating around the bush.
What you are really trying to express in this thread is that you don’t think that Lsu’s QB Burrow will amount to anything.
I’m not sure what your idea of a successful year for Mr Burrow would be, but we dumb Cajuns who obviously don’t know as much as you Rhodes Scholars from Alabama are very excited to have him. Our defense should be really good this year , so we don’t need a heisman effort from him although I would gladly take it lol.
I believe he will be an upgrade from Etling and give our 2 younger QB’s more time to develope.
This post was edited on 6/30/18 at 10:10 am
Posted by Armchair_QB
Member since Aug 2013
1512 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:09 am to
Russell Wilson says hi.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15091 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:14 am to
Jalen Hurts will be a successful QB grad transfer for some team
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