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re: Georgia Fans be honest- You wish y’all would have played Fields?
Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:30 pm to Tillman
Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:30 pm to Tillman
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Clemson beat UNC who beat SC who beat UGA at home. Seems like a weird point in time for your meathead talking point about schedules.
Holy transitive property, Batman.
Two years ago LSU beat Auburn who beat Bama. Where do we pick up our natty?
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:36 pm to lostinbr
that's not the transitive property b/c I didn't make a projection about another game based on the result of these games.
I'm saying if you guys say Clemson's schedule sucks, then your team shouldn't lose to a team that got beat by an ACC school.
people gonna have some fun with that if you brag about your schedule and drag other team's schedules.
btw:
Losses to non-P5 teams this year:
ACC - 4
B12 - 2
B1G - 3
P12 - 7
SEC - 6
I'm saying if you guys say Clemson's schedule sucks, then your team shouldn't lose to a team that got beat by an ACC school.
people gonna have some fun with that if you brag about your schedule and drag other team's schedules.
btw:
Losses to non-P5 teams this year:
ACC - 4
B12 - 2
B1G - 3
P12 - 7
SEC - 6
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:38 pm to Tillman
Well App State beat UNC who beat Miami who beat the second best team in the ACC.
Just saying.
Just saying.
Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:39 pm to lostinbr
wait, didn't you guys say Miami was 2nd best team in ACC. then they lost in the ACC and you pivot to some other team.
It changes every week. lol
App State may beat SC in a few weeks.
It changes every week. lol
App State may beat SC in a few weeks.
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:40 pm to Tillman
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wait, didn't you guys say Miami was 2nd best team in ACC. then they lost in the ACC and you pivot to some other team.
It changes every week. lol
It’s hard to keep up with because they’re all so bad.
Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:41 pm to lostinbr
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t’s hard to keep up with because they’re all so bad.
LSU's defense looks bad
If SEC is so good why is Alabama projected to win the conference every season.
ACC colleges played Clemson tougher than Alabama did last year and ALabama ran through SEC teams like shite thru a tin horn last year.
Why hasn't LSU even been competitive in games with Alabama. I won't be surprised if Alabama wins 45-0 against LSU this year.
this is like the first season in 10 years LSU has had a decent pass offense.
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 10:44 pm
Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:43 pm to jvilletiger25
And you’re an idiot
Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:43 pm to Tillman
Dude you sound like an idiot defending the acc
Posted on 10/14/19 at 10:44 pm to blzr
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Dude you sound like an idiot defending the acc
i'm not defending anything, i'm pointing out SEC has basically been a one team conference for 10 years. I don't see how it has been much different than when FSU owned in the ACC.
if ACC is truly trash , the playoff committee should leave Clemson out even if they are undefeated. that's their call. What's the worst thing that could happen, Clemson gets to play a good team that barely missed the playoffs in a bowl game. lol I'll be as happy about undefeated record even if it doesn't include a title.
I wouldn't even mind missing the playoffs if Clemson could play a different team , we've done the Oklahoma, Ohio State and Alabama thing several times now.
i want to get a taste of that Pac 12 red meat
SEC people act like schedule makes you a champion. It is about winning. ANybody can lose to good teams.
UGA proved on Saturday they could lose to non-Clemson ACC teams too. They only scored 17 points in a double overtime game and their last TD was set up by a dubious penalty call.
It would be fun to see how SEC fans liked it if Clemson moved to SEC. Seems like it would be harder for SEC teams to make playoffs then.
Perhaps then you would feel silly about complaining about Clemson's ACC schedule
If SEC is truly stacked, the NCAA should bust it up, move programs to weaker conferences.
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 11:03 pm
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:02 pm to Tillman
Here’s a hypothetical. Let’s take the top 3 teams from each division in the ACC standings:
- Clemson
- Louisville
- Florida State
- Duke
- Virginia
- North Carolina
And the top 3 teams from each division in the SEC standings:
- Alabama
- LSU
- Auburn
- Mizzou
- Florida
- Georgia
And have each side play a round robin against the other conference. Do you really think the ACC would come out with a winning record?
FSU already lost to Boise State. UNC already lost to App State. Duke already lost to Bama and Pitt. Louisville and Virginia already lost to Notre Dame, who got beat by Georgia (I’m using your transitive property again).
Nobody is arguing that the bottom of the SEC is good (sorry Vandy, UT, and Arky). Although I might argue the bottom of the SEC is on par with the bottom of the ACC. But in the top halves of the conferences, it’s pretty cut-and-dry.
- Clemson
- Louisville
- Florida State
- Duke
- Virginia
- North Carolina
And the top 3 teams from each division in the SEC standings:
- Alabama
- LSU
- Auburn
- Mizzou
- Florida
- Georgia
And have each side play a round robin against the other conference. Do you really think the ACC would come out with a winning record?
FSU already lost to Boise State. UNC already lost to App State. Duke already lost to Bama and Pitt. Louisville and Virginia already lost to Notre Dame, who got beat by Georgia (I’m using your transitive property again).
Nobody is arguing that the bottom of the SEC is good (sorry Vandy, UT, and Arky). Although I might argue the bottom of the SEC is on par with the bottom of the ACC. But in the top halves of the conferences, it’s pretty cut-and-dry.
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:02 pm to Tillman
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It would be fun to see how SEC fans liked it if Clemson moved to SEC. Seems like it would be harder for SEC teams to make playoffs then.
Perhaps then you would feel silly about complaining about Clemson's ACC schedule
You do realize that you’re making everyone’s point when you say this, right?Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:04 pm to lostinbr
i'm not getting into hypotheticals.
People like you were saying Clemson would be pistol whipped all 4 years in the matchups with Alabama. Only one bad game in the 4, and that was a rebuilding year.
Right now the majority of ACC team losses are to other ACC teams. You can't say ACC teams suck without using their losses to other ACC teams to make the case. lol That's circular logic.
Let's look at SEC vs ACC matchups this year.
Alabama beat Duke. We can't make a statement about ACC based on this game given SEC programs like LSU and Tenn rarely beat Alabama and rarely are competiive in those losses.
Miami and Florida was a very close game despite Miami with a young starting QB and a pretty bad O-line. Miami has since lost 2 games in ACC and that QB has been benched. Miami's defense is a lot better than LSU's defense in my view.
UNC beat SC and SC beat UGA at home.
So based on conference head to head this year, there's no basis to say SEC is better.
People like you were saying Clemson would be pistol whipped all 4 years in the matchups with Alabama. Only one bad game in the 4, and that was a rebuilding year.
Right now the majority of ACC team losses are to other ACC teams. You can't say ACC teams suck without using their losses to other ACC teams to make the case. lol That's circular logic.
Let's look at SEC vs ACC matchups this year.
Alabama beat Duke. We can't make a statement about ACC based on this game given SEC programs like LSU and Tenn rarely beat Alabama and rarely are competiive in those losses.
Miami and Florida was a very close game despite Miami with a young starting QB and a pretty bad O-line. Miami has since lost 2 games in ACC and that QB has been benched. Miami's defense is a lot better than LSU's defense in my view.
UNC beat SC and SC beat UGA at home.
So based on conference head to head this year, there's no basis to say SEC is better.
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:12 pm to lostinbr
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You do realize that you’re making everyone’s point when you say this, right?
How am I making your point. i'm mocking your Finebaum whining.
Your point is to whine about schedule and use it as an excuse for losing and the reason Clemson has been successful.
it would be a more convincing argument if Clemson had not won a lot of big games out of conference against SEC universities, oklahoma, ohio state, ND, etc.
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:18 pm to lostinbr
Florida is in the top half of your conference and they didn't look good against Miami who doesn't look like a lock to be in top half of ACC.
the issues Miami had against Florida have been the same issues they've had against ACC teams.
I think VA tech is 2nd worst team in ACC and they looked great on offense against Miami compared to Florida, and that game was at Miami.
The ACC currently has one of the best OOC wins this season of any conference, Pitt beating UCF. Pitt was in the game with Penn State at Penn State as well. Pitt hasn't been playing teams like Vanderbilt and Samford.
the issues Miami had against Florida have been the same issues they've had against ACC teams.
I think VA tech is 2nd worst team in ACC and they looked great on offense against Miami compared to Florida, and that game was at Miami.
The ACC currently has one of the best OOC wins this season of any conference, Pitt beating UCF. Pitt was in the game with Penn State at Penn State as well. Pitt hasn't been playing teams like Vanderbilt and Samford.
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 11:26 pm
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:35 pm to Tillman
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Right now the majority of ACC team losses are to other ACC teams. You can't say ACC teams suck without using their losses to other ACC teams to make the case. lol
The only ACC loss I listed was Pitt, and that was an accident.
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How am I making your point.
Your point is to whine about schedule and use it as an excuse for losing and the reason Clemson has been successful.
:Sigh: Here’s a statistical exercise:
If a team has a 95% win probability (roughly equates to being a 20-point favorite) in each game of a 12 game regular season, they have a 54% chance to go 12-0.
If the single-game win probability drops to 90% (17 point favorite) the likelihood of going undefeated drops to 28%.
If the single-game win probability drops to 77% (10 point favorite) the likelihood of going undefeated drops to 4%.
Nobody is saying Clemson didn’t earn those championships. You beat Bama, fair and square. But that doesn’t change the fact that your path to the CFP is way easier than it is for most SEC teams.
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The ACC currently has one of the best OOC wins this season of any conference, Pitt beating UCF.
Good lord. You think UCF is a better OOC win than Oregon, Notre Dame, or Texas? You have got to be trolling.
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Pitt hasn't been playing teams like Vanderbilt and Samford.
You’re right, they’ve been playing Ohio and Delaware.
Now please continue your melt, and feel free to edit your response 4 or 5 times - that’s when your best (worst) arguments come out.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 6:22 am to Solo Cam
imo.. from day one I haven’t been happy with Fromm as QB. I felt UGA would have been able to stretch the field better in 2017 if they had brought Eason back after the injury; but I understand not rocking the boat ; if it’s working. UGA success in 17 was based on Chubb, Michel, and Roquan ( the best LB in the game) and 31 seniors.
I believe KS was honest last year when he said there was no plan on playing Fields. I believe it’ll was code to say our Offensive staff has no clue how to use him; and that is disheartening.
Fromm is a good QB; but he’s not elite and anyone who claims he is.. is fooling themselves. I do think Coley was an awful hire, and said so last spring. He sucked at FIU, FSU, and Miami as OC. Kirby should have went and hired a creative mind.
Fields, unfortunately; made the right call. Ryan Day is creative and runs a great NFL style offense. JF1 will be successful and be ultra ready for the draft in 21. Think about this Fields will make his 23 career start in HS or college come Friday night. The ceiling is unreal.
I would rather have to teach a game changer to manage a game; than know that my game manager can’t change the game when needed.
It’s simple as someone else posted... does Fromm scare you as an opponent?? Does Fields?? Pretty easy to answer imo!
I believe KS was honest last year when he said there was no plan on playing Fields. I believe it’ll was code to say our Offensive staff has no clue how to use him; and that is disheartening.
Fromm is a good QB; but he’s not elite and anyone who claims he is.. is fooling themselves. I do think Coley was an awful hire, and said so last spring. He sucked at FIU, FSU, and Miami as OC. Kirby should have went and hired a creative mind.
Fields, unfortunately; made the right call. Ryan Day is creative and runs a great NFL style offense. JF1 will be successful and be ultra ready for the draft in 21. Think about this Fields will make his 23 career start in HS or college come Friday night. The ceiling is unreal.
I would rather have to teach a game changer to manage a game; than know that my game manager can’t change the game when needed.
It’s simple as someone else posted... does Fromm scare you as an opponent?? Does Fields?? Pretty easy to answer imo!
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 6:23 am
Posted on 10/15/19 at 6:28 am to Solo Cam
Let me ask you a serious question OP. What earthly good would it do us to have Fields when Kirby would just have him hand the ball off to run right in the middle of 9 man fronts? It doesn't matter who the QB is, because of the coaching our offense is going to be shite which makes sense, a team tends to take on the characteristics of the coach and it was apparent for all to see last Saturday
Posted on 10/15/19 at 7:07 am to Tillman
What a fricking moron.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 7:11 am to Solo Cam
Fromm is a great QB who had one bad game in 3 years and people are killing the kid. He will be drafted in the top 3 rounds and play a long time in the NFL. This is why we hate UGA fans. They eat their own.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 7:22 am to TailbackU
Everyone eats their own. It’s the way of the sports fan
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