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re: Freshman admission at Ole Miss is exploding

Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:35 pm to
Posted by MtVernon
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:35 pm to
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Lots of young people not afraid to be seen as racist


What's there to be afraid of?
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:48 pm to
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In high school I went to LSU over Ole Miss and Arkansas but was mostly considering Ole Miss. However, way more Shreveport kids were choosing Ole Miss over Arkansas as the second SEC option back in 2010. Surprised how many south LA kids I see going to Arkansas now too.
Wild Horses couldn't have dragged me away from LSU.

I only briefly and not real seriously, considered Southern Miss and Troy State. (And both of those mostly for Marching Band)

USM would have been the best fit for me academically because they had the Major I wanted AND a great Band, but I didn't savor the prospect of spending 4-6 years in Hattiesburg Mississippi......
Posted by Chad4Bama
Member since Sep 2020
7243 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 12:15 am to
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but I didn't savor the prospect of spending 4-6 years in Hattiesburg Mississippi...


Baton Rouge is an upgrade?
Posted by Rebbedup
Member since Jun 2021
3625 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 12:32 am to
I’ve had 2 young Engineers work for me from State over the last 30. They failed their tests and worked me overtime mentoring them. They were simply missing the basics. The best young Engineers I’ve had were from Christian Brothers University.

Grow up and realize a school is as only as good as its students and how dedicated they are to hard work.
This post was edited on 6/14/25 at 12:37 am
Posted by LSUTigresFan
SE Louisiana to Austin (Texas Ex)
Member since Mar 2013
5063 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 12:44 am to
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it only takes an ACT score of 18 to enroll


Damn, I didn't expect it to be only 18 even though that is roughly average.
Posted by LSUTigresFan
SE Louisiana to Austin (Texas Ex)
Member since Mar 2013
5063 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 12:52 am to
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Organic Chemistry is the same at Ole Miss as it is at Harvard, but the bigger names definitely give you an advantage when you're trying to land jobs at major firms.



You could argue that the information on the syllabus, as far as course objectives are concerned, is the same, but the rigor to achieve an A at a top school is much more difficult than the rigor at a lower-ranked school. This is first-hand experience btw.
Posted by AUreo
Member since Jul 2021
2259 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 1:54 am to
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incoming freshmen have risen dramatically over the last 15 to 20 years ironically as the relative U.S. News ranking has steadily dropped which is the opposite of what you'd expect and it's been pretty pronounced in Alabama's case but even in Auburn's case to lesser extent as well.

Acceptance rate isn’t a major factor in the USNWR ranking besides UAT still has a high acceptance rate… test scores have a somewhat bigger impact but other factors are more important…
UAT has been dropping for years now and quite dramatically while Auburn just dropped a few spots recently because USNWR decided to adjust its methodology. Auburn ranks #1 in AL and it’s not even close, followed by UAB… UAT doesn’t even make the Top150 nationally. I think UAT dropped 50-60 spots in the past few years…
This post was edited on 6/14/25 at 10:22 am
Posted by Old School Tex
North Carolina
Member since Jul 2021
900 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 5:17 am to
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And besides that, you're wrong. The difference between Yale and Ole Miss is Yale has a lot of professors that win big international awards. But guess what? Most students never see those professors, because they don't teach survey courses.


Another difference is the quality and intelligence of the other students in one’s classes at top universities. It can be much harder to make an “A” graded on a curve in a class full of academic stars…
This post was edited on 6/14/25 at 5:18 am
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
15810 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:06 am to
Harvard of the South
Posted by Pauldingtiger
Alabama
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:37 am to
For the University of Mississippi (Ole Miss), a minimum ACT composite score of 16 is generally required for Mississippi residents. However, a more competitive score, especially for scholarships and the Honors College, is around 21 and above. Most admitted students score between 21 and 29, with an average of 25.


They don’t demand much from Mississippi residents!
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
69374 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 11:17 am to
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For the University of Mississippi (Ole Miss), a minimum ACT composite score of 16 is generally required for Mississippi residents. However, a more competitive score, especially for scholarships and the Honors College, is around 21 and above. Most admitted students score between 21 and 29, with an average of 25.


They don’t demand much from Mississippi residents!


How many times do we have to keep repeating to you idiots that the requirements are set by the state and apply to all state-funded institutions?
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
16660 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 11:37 am to
Now we know where all those international Harvard students will be going.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
14181 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 11:52 am to
It's the ascent of the SEC, kids and parents want traditional College Experience and that's not available in the rest of the country any longer.
Posted by BurnsideStyle
Member since May 2014
1936 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 11:53 am to
For Ole Miss the average ACT score for OOS recently has been around 24 with an average GPA of around 3.5. For in state they cap the ACT at 18 by law.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
14181 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 12:02 pm to
Down side will be when the out of staters take all the slots for in staters and the dorms are limited. Tennessee is dealing with this now.
Posted by secuniversity
Member since May 2015
5758 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 12:19 pm to
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LSU is having record applications too of over 40,000. Our administration has wised up and embraced the OOS model Alabama and Ole Miss have embraced for years.

A lot of Northeast kids are going to the SEC now for the ideal college experience. LSU is bringing in a lot of New Jersey and Maryland kids now ? our Texas numbers are back to when I was in school too.


Alabama's been recruiting students from the Northeast since the 1930s. It's pretty common to hear students from New Jersey, New York tell you they're 4th-5th generation Alabama grads in their family.

Capitalizing in the national press from Alabama football Rose Bowl appearances, the president at the time heavily recruited the area and advertised the University of Alabama in NY newspapers. Enrollment exploded under him...that's why he has the chimes and stadium named after him. George H Denny.
This post was edited on 6/14/25 at 12:21 pm
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
11611 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 12:25 pm to
They didn’t have room last year.
Posted by BurgTiger
Member since Feb 2014
3099 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 12:43 pm to
College football success universally boosts enrollment and giving.

Academics HATE this reality.
Posted by Geopardee
Member since Nov 2018
95 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 12:55 pm to
Because of the in-state admissions standards OM will take almost anybody with a pulse.

If you are a strong in-state student they will absolutely shower you with $ and scholarships.

Sadly, then a good number of those student end up moving out of state to ATL, Nashville, Dallas, etc.

Also helps that OM is (relatively) close to a lot of large population centers in the Southeast.
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9482 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 1:38 pm to
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Acceptance rate isn’t a major factor in the USNWR ranking besides UAT still has a high acceptance rate… test scores have a somewhat bigger impact but other factors are more important…
UAT has been dropping for years now and quite dramatically while Auburn just dropped a few spots recently because USNWR decided to adjust its methodology. Auburn ranks #1 in AL and it’s not even close, followed by UAB… UAT doesn’t even make the Top150 nationally. I think UAT dropped 50-60 spots in the past few years…



I will concede Auburn as the top rated school in the state and there are reasons for that but both Auburn and Alabama were ranked almost dead even as recently as 7 or 8 years ago. Both were among the Top 50 public schools in the country at that time. Auburn has fared significantly better in the U.S. News rankings though since as you mentioned they changed their ranking criteria

My point was that the metrics of Alabama's qualifty of incoming freshment (Avg ACT/SAT scores, GPA, etc) has improved dramatically the last few years. In fact, Alabama's avg or median ACT/SAT for incoming freshmen was a tenth of a point behind Auburn's last I looked up the stats a couple of years ago yet Auburn has only modestly dropped a few spots from their highest US News rankings a few years ago compared to Alabama which has dropped significantly more in the US News rankings since their highest ranking about 10 years ago.

Auburn will always have an advantage over "UAT" in these rankings because the AU system is basically all on the main Auburn campus whereas the UA system is spread out over three distinct 4 year universities with UAB and UAH.

Auburn only has AUM which is basically a relatively small satellite branch of the main campus and doesn't dilute resources and academic programs away from Auburn's main campus the way that UAB and UAH do from the main UA campus in Tuscaloosa.
This post was edited on 6/14/25 at 1:44 pm
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