re: Former LSU team captain Greg Brooks is suing LSU & its affiliated medical center

ftr from one of the articles at the time

So on August 14th, Brooks hinself says he is now doing better with treatment. Zero chance MRI would be done then.

MRI gets done on September 13th.


as some one else posted

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Zero chance there would be fault found in a medical review panel regarding delay of diagnosis.

Zero chance there was delay that made the surgery and thus complications worse.

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if you are not feeling well....trainers and GP diagnose something...treat it and you start feeling better...they are not going to run out for a mri right away

I agree. I can't believe people are taking the coach's and school's sides. It should not have taken a whole month to give the kid an MRI. Total negligence on their part.

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Sad this is what the once proud and prestigious louisiana state university has come to under the leadership of crooked Brian. Hopefully this will be a lesson to other players to stay away from such a shady program and to stay at respectable universities like the university of Arkansas. I bet Greg wishes he’d stayed

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Trolling about a young man with a brain injury. You need counseling.

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I don't know what your experience has been but when I went to my ENT to complain about vertigo symptoms, after a routine in-office checkup, he ordered an MRI, specifically to ensure I didn't have a brain tumor.

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Just out of curiosity, how old are you and what type of physical activity do you do on a regular basis? We're talking about a 21 year old who played football every day in the summer heat of Louisiana having a cancer that only affects >500 people a year. If he was older and spent most of his days in an office and was constantly experiencing vertigo, maybe doctors would have had a different opinion.

Professional golfer Jason Day, who was much older than Brooks, had experienced vertigo for over a year (withdrew from golf tournaments over it) before getting an MRI, among other tests. His turned out to be nothing doctors could ever really explain.

Of course we all have anecdotal stories, but I can't imagine team doctors would go straight to ordering an MRI for a player complaining of being dizzy/nauseous during fall practice. Maybe had he suffered a head injury during practice, but he didn't.

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Why did the training staff decide at this time to schedule the appointment with the neurologist?

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This is the best I can find.

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On Wednesday's SEC teleconference, Kelly said Brooks' bout with vertigo earlier in the year ended up being a symptom of the tumor. Kelly said Brooks felt dizziness again this past Wednesday and they decided to perform an MRI, which revealed the tumor.

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That Wednesday was the Wednesday before LSU played Miss State. Sorry for misspeaking before. It was the Wednesday after the 2nd game of the year, not the first game of the year

Just putting together the small pieces available. Brooks reports feeling DIzzy in early August, Brooks says he's feeling better and like himself mid-August. Then by mid-September he starts having (or starts telling the staff) about those symptoms again and they send him to get an MRI. Then he has surgery to remove a tumor a few days later.

Honestly, this almost reads like players who have symptoms of concussions but want to play so they say they're fine until they're clearly not fine. In this case, tragically, what was going on was about as bad as it possibly could have been. And that still doesn't mean had he had an MRI sooner that his fate would have changed. That's going to be a tough hill to climb for his legal team. I also doubt playing made the tumor worse.

If the coaches said, "if you can't practice, someone is going to have to play in your place," what exactly are they supposed to say? It's a rhetorical statement. The coaches aren't the doctors, which is probably why Kelly, nor any of the coaches, are implicated in the lawsuit he filed. His allegations are directed at the medical staff for the team.

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Just out of curiosity, how old are you and what type of physical activity do you do on a regular basis?

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Early 30s, run 35-40 miles a week, and lift weights a few times a week.

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Of course we all have anecdotal stories, but I can't imagine team doctors would go straight to ordering an MRI for a player complaining of being dizzy/nauseous during fall practice. Maybe had he suffered a head injury during practice, but he didn't.

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Of course, and I'm basing my thoughts on my anecdotal story and a Yahoo Sports article (which is probably the biggest mistake, ha) that only tells Brooks' side of the story.

It's just after my personal experience dealing with vertigo symptoms, I found it curious that per the lawsuit, they waited 39 days to meet with a neurologist. Once my ENT ruled out a concussion or ear infection, he immediately ordered the MRI just to rule out a possible brain tumor.

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It's just after my personal experience dealing with vertigo symptoms, I found it curious that per the lawsuit, they waited 39 days to meet with a neurologist. Once my ENT ruled out a concussion or ear infection, he immediately ordered the MRI just to rule out a possible brain tumor.

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Did you go straight to the ENT or did you go to your PCP first?

My guess is Brooks wanted to be better to play football. He was a leader and captain of the defense. I think it's not far-fetched to think he may have led everyone to believe he was feeling better even if he wasn't because he wanted to play. And if if was telling people he felt better, there would have been no need to be concerned. Who knows, his lawsuit is going to paint everything in the most favorable light to recover a monetary award. That's what lawyers do (on both sides). The public knows so little actual facts of what happened that it's really futile to start pointing fingers right now.

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I'm not going to quote your entire last post, but I agree that your assessment is most likely what happened. Impossible to know without LSU's response that tells their side of the story, but I doubt we ever get to that point.

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The coaches aren't the doctors, which is probably why Kelly, nor any of the coaches, are implicated in the lawsuit he filed.

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I believe the article stated some coaches (i.e., BK, Matt House, etc.) were implicated, but of course they were, because (as you know) when you file a lawsuit, you include everyone you can and then see what sticks.

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the legal filing, Brooks accuses the coaching staff of encouraging him to practice and play while ill by threatening his starting position

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Except it doesn’t even allege that. Direct quote from lawyers

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Brooks was given the option to not participate in practice but was “simultaneously told by the coaching staff that if he chose to sit out, someone else would take his place, such that he may lose his starting position,” the lawsuit says.

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If you can’t practice what exactly do you expect?

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Did you go straight to the ENT or did you go to your PCP first?

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Straight to my ENT.

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My guess is Brooks wanted to be better to play football. He was a leader and captain of the defense. I think it's not far-fetched to think he may have led everyone to believe he was feeling better even if he wasn't because he wanted to play. And if if was telling people he felt better, there would have been no need to be concerned. Who knows, his lawsuit is going to paint everything in the most favorable light to recover a monetary award. That's what lawyers do (on both sides). The public knows so little actual facts of what happened that it's really futile to start pointing fingers right now.

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So I had already made my last post before reading this, but as I said in the other post, yup, I agree with pretty much all of this.