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re: Florida isn't a better job than Ole Miss or Missouri

Posted on 10/21/25 at 8:47 am to
Posted by GreatPumpkin
Member since Mar 2022
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 8:47 am to
I hate Florida but they are superior to Missouri in every way. More money, better facilities, better recruiting location, better stadium, better tradition and much more dedicated and loyal fans. Missouri’s fight song is also gay
Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
6167 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 8:48 am to
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Why is Florida the better job? Your answer shouldn't include anything about the accomplishments of Steve Spurrier. Today's recruits weren't alive for that.


Can't just dismiss those accomplishments because they contribute to UF being a much more high profile position. One of the biggest brands in college sports. That means more media coverage. More NIL opportunity. Even with down periods of late in football, the logo still carries weight and it will get you in more doors.
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
10184 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 8:48 am to
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This is the seminal point.

It all comes down to what the NIL resources are.

Ole Miss and Missouri are two teams that went all in on NIL early.

If FL has a NIL pool in the top 10 in football, then, and only then, is it a better job.

Lastly, the other factor is both Kiffen and Drink run their respective universities. Drink answers only to the BoC, not the AD. I’m sure Kiffen is in a similar situation.

Will they have that at FL?


Precisely. And in addition to this, Drinkwitz and Kiffin have good job security at their current programs (as good as job security gets in the current college football climate at least). They've also had time to build the programs that they want to build, and both schools are on an excellent trajectory. Leaving for Florida brings inherent risk for both coaches - and Florida has massive expectations and will grant little time for the new coach to achieve them.

This isn't akin to Mizzou or Ole Miss in 2000 when Florida could have either coach twice their current salary and offer a chance for a much higher ceiling.
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
17723 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 8:49 am to
I think the Great Paul Bear Bryant said that if UF every got a good coach they would be dangerous. I am paraphrasing of course. Too much home grown talent within 300 miles of campus. Family and friends dont have to go too far to come watch the games.

NS did it at Alabama as he became the singular voice. The right coach can make it happen.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
20910 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 8:51 am to
Ole Miss and Mizzou will never take championship level football seriously. Florida has before and can again.

You need an AD committed to winning. You need the revenue. You need the boosters, you need the recruits.

Florida, right now, in a decade long steaming pile of shite has more talent on its roster than ole Miss and Mizzou if they consolidated their rosters. Florida is an AD away from being in a position to be a contender in the playoffs most years.
Posted by N0T SURE
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 8:51 am to
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This post was edited on 10/21/25 at 8:53 am
Posted by Jeepin_Josh
Nashville TN
Member since Jan 2024
546 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 8:53 am to
yea, but Gainesville is a crap hole in the middle of nowhere. It might as well be South GA. But its definitely closer to some nicer areas of Florida that Oxford MS
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
48334 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 8:53 am to
If I were Lane, I wouldn't take the Florida job. I would do what Ferentz has done at Iowa, and Whittingham has done at Utah and coach at Ole Miss forever until I retire.
This post was edited on 10/21/25 at 8:55 am
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
17723 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 8:55 am to
UF would have fired Ferentz years ago with his lack of ability to take them to the next level.
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
10184 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 8:58 am to
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Can't just dismiss those accomplishments because they contribute to UF being a much more high profile position. One of the biggest brands in college sports. That means more media coverage. More NIL opportunity. Even with down periods of late in football, the logo still carries weight and it will get you in more doors.


Do you really believe that the vast majority of 5* high school recruits, or top portal players care about Florida's achievements under Spurrier? Only us old dorks who love college football care about that. Players will go play where they get paid the most and have the best opportunities. To that point, last year Ole Miss and Mizzou ranked #3 and #9 respectively in the transfer portal rankings. Florida was #27. You claim "more NIL opportunity" at Florida, but that simply hasn't proven to be the case so far.
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
6433 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 8:59 am to
Ole Miss has not won the SEC since 1960. Ole Miss has not even played in the SEC title game since it was created. Ole Miss facilities are in the bottom half of the conference. Their NIL is based upon an every 3-4 years model, as opposed to a compete every year. They have great in state talent , but not enough of it for depth across the board. They have never recruited well out of state, yet compete with the entire SEC for their own in state talent. You are delusional if you think it is a better gig than Florida.
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30764 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:11 am to
This combined with many other items makes Florida a better job than Ole Miss.

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Posted by Dallaswho
Texas
Member since Dec 2023
3380 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:20 am to
Valuation and P/L of football programs is highly suspect. Some universities use every accounting trick possible to show maximum football revenue while others do the complete opposite. Different priorities.
Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
6167 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:27 am to
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Do you really believe that the vast majority of 5* high school recruits, or top portal players care about Florida's achievements under Spurrier? Only us old dorks who love college football care about that. Players will go play where they get paid the most and have the best opportunities. To that point, last year Ole Miss and Mizzou ranked #3 and #9 respectively in the transfer portal rankings. Florida was #27. You claim "more NIL opportunity" at Florida, but that simply hasn't proven to be the case so far.


No I don't think they know or care about his individual accomplishments. But UF is a much higher profile job because of them. And because of Meyer and others that contributed to UF being a championship caliber program. It's a significantly bigger brand.

There's nothing wrong with Ole Miss or Missouri. But the flagship school with championship pedigree in the 3rd most populous state is going to offer far more opportunities for players to take advantage of their NIL. It's just the way it is.
This post was edited on 10/21/25 at 9:29 am
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
22219 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:27 am to
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I hate Florida but they are superior to Missouri in every way. More money, better facilities, better recruiting location, better stadium, better tradition and much more dedicated and loyal fans. Missouri’s fight song is also gay

Hmm... Superior every place but between the white lines.
Posted by GreatPumpkin
Member since Mar 2022
2967 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:29 am to
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Hmm... Superior every place but between the white lines.
Anomaly
Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
17336 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:30 am to
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Your answer shouldn't include anything about the accomplishments of Steve Spurrier. Today's recruits weren't alive for that.


Can we include CUM?
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
10184 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:34 am to
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Ole Miss and Mizzou will never take championship level football seriously. Florida has before and can again.

Ole Miss and Mizzou are both Top 15 programs right now in the Playoff hunt, and are both on pace for their third consecutive 10+ win seasons. Really strange time to make this argument when both programs have shown a clear ability to elevate themselves above historic norms.
Posted by Lt. Columbo
Member since Nov 2012
1618 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:36 am to
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We don't have any meddling boosters. If anything, we have boosters who befriend coaches and won't fire their asses soon enough. Condron and Hathcock are probably the two biggest donors and they are the opposite of meddling. They are always positive, always voicing support.

Ben Hill Griffin's kids give to several universities, not just UF, so they don't meddle.


This! Our boosters are softies, don't buy into the "toxic" narrative that Tim Brando is spewing
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
22219 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:36 am to
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Anomaly

Same anomaly with VOLOL's

But muh worst 20 year down period in progrum history...
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