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re: Exactly how good is clowney? (Relative to SEC pass rushing legends)

Posted on 4/9/13 at 9:45 am to
Posted by EvilVodka
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/9/13 at 9:45 am to
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He's a great player, but all this superman talk is ridiculous. There are players like him out there almost every year.


agreed
Posted by PepaSpray
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Posted on 4/9/13 at 9:46 am to
His handle is DanMulllins4Life...I think he was already outed
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
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Posted on 4/9/13 at 9:46 am to
As a pass rusher, I don't think he's in the same stratosphere as Derrick Thomas. He could be if he gave his all every down. White was a better pro player than college player.

Athletic Prowess is an area that few can touch clowney though, I think at times he relies on this too much and does enough to be productive, when maximum effort would make him unstoppable. See Michigan RB being disintegrated when the SC defense was pissed off
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
34153 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 9:49 am to
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He's a legitimate 6'6"
He weighs 275 pounds
He runs a 4.5

There are few humans on the planet like that, much less every year

International rugby professionals say lolwut?
Posted by gideon
Member since Jan 2013
509 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 9:49 am to
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White was a better pro player than college player.


true, he was a better pro. He was also an All-American, All-SEC, SEC player of the year, and holds every Tennessee sack record imaginable. Career sacks, sacks in a season, sacks in a single game.

The idea that he was underwhelming in college is pretty much nonsense.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/9/13 at 9:50 am to
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As a pass rusher, I don't think he's in the same stratosphere as Derrick Thomas. He could be if he gave his all every down. White was a better pro player than college player.


He's on the same level. He isn't better than DT. Here is what I would point out and want to get your opinion on. When DT played in the 80s, there was no one like him and no one that could block him. If you put DT on the field today, he would be dominant, but probably not register the same numbers he put up. He could play in absolutely any era. If we put Clowney on that Bama team or in that era, I think it would be very similar. The production would be close. What do you think?
Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
Member since Feb 2011
6228 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 9:51 am to
Clowney is basically what Lebron James would be if he played DE.

Kid is an insane athlete. He might not be the most polished DE but when your bigger and faster than everyone in the world.. Who the frick cares
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 4/9/13 at 9:52 am to
I agree, but that's a little like saying jake holland would have been a dominant linebacker in the 60's. Humans in general, and especially football players, are much larger and more athletic today than they were then collectively speaking.

I see what you're saying though and agree
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 4/9/13 at 9:55 am to
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I agree, but that's a little like saying jake holland would have been a dominant linebacker in the 60's. Humans in general, and especially football players, are much larger and more athletic today than they were then collectively speaking.

I see what you're saying though and agree


That's exactly what I'm saying. More specifically though, DT was a mutant. He would be a mutant today and virtually unblockable. I think more of those guys exist today, but in the 80s he was like the original prototype.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 4/9/13 at 10:17 am to
I don't think Derrick Thomas' numbers will ever be touched. But he was a modern pass rusher, playing before his time. He was just unblockable.
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37856 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 10:23 am to
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When DT played in the 80s, there was no one like him and no one that could block him. If you put DT on the field today, he would be dominant, but probably not register the same numbers he put up.


Idk. His #s in the pros are just as ridiculous. He was voted all pro 9 times in ten years I believe. You can say he played against weaker competition in college, but you can't say that about him in his NFL career.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
20625 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 11:20 am to
Clowney is very good. Not Derrick Thomas good, but good.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
21446 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 11:20 am to
The best defensive player I have ever seen
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
9153 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 11:26 am to
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International rugby professionals say lolwut?


Jonah Lomu and who else?
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
82662 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 11:31 am to
He's definitely in the top 3, not even a debate. I never saw DT play in the SEC so I can't comment on that, and the Freak was a freak for FLA. Clowney, though, is unreal.

Moral of the story: Clowney is really fricking good and I can't wait till he goes pro
This post was edited on 4/9/13 at 11:32 am
Posted by pochejp
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2007
8124 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 11:35 am to
He's one of the best to ever play the position. It's just a shame he didn't go to a school that could get him a championship. SEC or
MNC. He won't sniff one of those next season either. Damn shame.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
42153 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 11:46 am to
I would rank Derrick Thomas and Reggie White ahead of Clowney
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
34153 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 11:55 am to
They all aren't that size but a lot of wingers are beasts with speed.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 12:03 pm to
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I can't think of a player ever that would have been picked over clowney in the draft. Maybe Mario Williams


Lol what?
Posted by Hardy_Har
MS
Member since Nov 2012
16333 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 12:07 pm to
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He lacks speed? Holy shite you just outed yourself as an idiot right here for everyone to see.


His troll condition has advanced to a stage 4, where you spew shite just to make other posters hate MSU in general.
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