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re: Exactly how good is clowney? (Relative to SEC pass rushing legends)
Posted on 4/9/13 at 12:09 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Posted on 4/9/13 at 12:09 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
I think what speaks volumes about Clowney is that the SEC is talking about him possibly being an all-time great and he has only played 1 season as a full-time starter.
Oh and to the MSU fan who said he was overrated.. you still mad brah?
Oh and to the MSU fan who said he was overrated.. you still mad brah?
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Posted on 4/9/13 at 12:40 pm to therick711
DT also didn't have to play the type of offenses back then like Clowney does. JC has to be more disciplined and hold the line of scrimmage almost like a 3-4 DE. The play is a couple of seconds after the snap before he can react. Back then it was more react immediately after the snap of the ball. Offenses are more horizontal these days, and DE's have to be able to control the inside gap more because of more nickel/dime packages, etc.
Although it is a thing of beauty to see him disrupt a read-option in the backfield.
I agree too that he does seem to go half speed a lot. He's one of the few players I've ever seen that can seemingly decide when he wants to make a play.
Although it is a thing of beauty to see him disrupt a read-option in the backfield.
I agree too that he does seem to go half speed a lot. He's one of the few players I've ever seen that can seemingly decide when he wants to make a play.
Posted on 4/9/13 at 1:03 pm to pochejp
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He's one of the best to ever play the position. It's just a shame he didn't go to a school that could get him a championship. SEC or MNC. He won't sniff one of those next season either. Damn shame.
Damn...him at UA....
Posted on 4/9/13 at 1:26 pm to NBamaAlum
The other interesting things about DT is that he played linebacker in the pros. I think he also played linebacker at Bama, but admit I was young when he was with the Tide and I'm not altogether sure where he played and what kind of scheme they ran. Also, it really helps you get to 27 sacks when a team also has to worry about Cornelius Bennett and Keith McCants. It doesn't take anything away, but 27 sacks can't happen without those guys. That level of production makes other defensive threats positively mandatory.
Posted on 4/9/13 at 1:32 pm to therick711
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Also, it really helps you get to 27 sacks when a team also has to worry about Cornelius Bennett and Keith McCants.
It sure does. 
Posted on 4/9/13 at 1:47 pm to gideon
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best since Reggie White?? maybe.
I was wondering how long it would take for someone to post this. Reggie White was the man.
Who was better? I say Reggie but I am no expert and don't claim to really know.
Posted on 4/9/13 at 1:49 pm to pochejp
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He's one of the best to ever play the position. It's just a shame he didn't go to a school that could get him a championship. SEC or
MNC. He won't sniff one of those next season either. Damn shame.
...oh wait, frick you.
Posted on 4/9/13 at 1:55 pm to therick711
but 27 sacks can't happen without those guys. That level of production makes other defensive threats positively mandatory
While it certainly didn't hurt, DT averaged 11.5 sacks per year in the NFL over 11 seasons. He was a remarkably consistent pass rusher even when he was the focal point of blocking schemes. I mean, 7 sacks in a game is absurd and he got his hands on the QB twice more in that particular game
While it certainly didn't hurt, DT averaged 11.5 sacks per year in the NFL over 11 seasons. He was a remarkably consistent pass rusher even when he was the focal point of blocking schemes. I mean, 7 sacks in a game is absurd and he got his hands on the QB twice more in that particular game
Posted on 4/9/13 at 1:59 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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While it certainly didn't hurt, DT averaged 11.5 sacks per year in the NFL over 11 seasons. He was a remarkably consistent pass rusher even when he was the focal point of blocking schemes. I mean, 7 sacks in a game is absurd and he got his hands on the QB twice more in that particular game
You are misinterpreting. There are plenty of great players whose production is helped by their team. Emmitt Smith for instance. He's a man, but that line was tremendous for him. Also in Derrick Thomas' NFL career, he had a guy by the name of Neil Smith that was pretty fricking good on his team.
He had a good career and was helped out tremendously by DT's presence.
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