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re: ESPN - The 50 best college football programs over 150 years

Posted on 8/15/19 at 5:43 pm to
Posted by Oklahomey
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 5:43 pm to
The SEC didn’t have restrictions on the number of teams that could bowl. That’s why some bowls in the 50s and 60s featured SEC vs. SEC. Other conferences could only send one, and the same team could not go back-to-back years.
Posted by GusAU
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 6:04 pm to
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15. LSU 
59.0 | 4 national titles 


I know of 1958, 2003 and 2007. What year is the fourth?
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 6:05 pm
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 6:09 pm to
There's not one.
Posted by AUFan2015
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 6:21 pm to
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I know of 1958, 2003 and 2007. What year is the fourth?
They may be counting 1908, they shared it with Pennsylvania that year.

quote:

1908 LSU, Pennsylvania NCF, HAF, NCF


NCAA
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 6:22 pm
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 6:30 pm to
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1908 LSU, Pennsylvania NCF, HAF, NCF


That's cool.

I've always thought we should claim 1913. I understand us not claiming 1993 and 2004 (even though I feel the 2004 team is the best Auburn team in my lifetime...I'm 56).
Posted by TideFaninFl
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 6:38 pm to
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Awarded before the bowl game in which they lost to the team with a rightful claim.

I’d be pretty ashamed of claiming that one, but that’s just me.



I notice you avoid 1966 when you are passing judgment.

A Notre Dame team that went for a tie won the NC over an undefeated and untied Alabama team that had already won the national title the previous two years.



Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:03 pm to
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I've always thought we should claim 1913. I understand us not claiming 1993 and 2004 (even though I feel the 2004 team is the best Auburn team in my lifetime...I'm 56).
The NCAA does not show Auburn with any claim for the 1913 title. LINK
Posted by dstone12
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:19 pm to
Big6
Top6
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:40 pm to
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No one is publishing a ranking from 2003 and on...too bad.

And if they were, Bama would still be #1.
Posted by SwampManiac
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Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:54 pm to
I agree Bama is number 1. Easily. It's a fact. But why for the love do gumps continually claim titles that don't exist. They claim 32. It's only 11. A measly 8 more than LSU.
Posted by dstone12
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 10:13 pm to
It was an inferiority complex to Notre Dame that allowed some baws to go off the rails and getting all AOC with titles. “Free titles for err’body”.

Looking back, they wish they never did “the reach”. It looks petty. It looks desperate.

But they had no clue that Saban would take them on this run. An epic run.

Also, Notre Dame looked like they could pluck whoever they wanted and they had the media on their side for the polls.

So the time was now. They wanted to be relevant. And look at the aTm boys who post here. Does forcing relevancy look cool to you? No.

They wanted to be in the conversation about #of titles. Bear was dead, Perkins didn’t kept the ball rolling. They had to act.....”Hey, we actually might have won the title that year. Is is illegal to claim it? No! It’s ours, now.”

They look silly now for doing it, because the credibility was siphoned when they made an egregious reach . If everyone used the same criteria as bama used, they would be two or three schools each year for the 130 of the last 150 years.....or 300+ claims to national titles.

Thank goodness everyone else just took what the major, non-obscure polls gave them.
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 10:16 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 10:15 pm to
LSU gonna pass UT soon
Posted by TideFaninFl
On the space coast
Member since Oct 2017
6620 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 5:18 am to
quote:

It was an inferiority complex to Notre Dame that allowed some baws to go off the rails and getting all AOC with titles. “Free titles for err’body”.

Looking back, they wish they never did “the reach”. It looks petty. It looks desperate.

But they had no clue that Saban would take them on this run. An epic run.

Also, Notre Dame looked like they could pluck whoever they wanted and they had the media on their side for the polls.

So the time was now. They wanted to be relevant. And look at the aTm boys who post here. Does forcing relevancy look cool to you? No.

They wanted to be in the conversation about #of titles. Bear was dead, Perkins didn’t kept the ball rolling. They had to act.....”Hey, we actually might have won the title that year. Is is illegal to claim it? No! It’s ours, now.”

They look silly now for doing it, because the credibility was siphoned when they made an egregious reach . If everyone used the same criteria as bama used, they would be two or three schools each year for the 130 of the last 150 years.....or 300+ claims to national titles.

Thank goodness everyone else just took what the major, non-obscure polls gave them.



You really have no clue about what you are talking about. Perhaps you should research the topic before posting.

Posted by dstone12
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 6:01 am to
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You really have no clue about what you are talking about. Perhaps you should research the topic before posting



Sounds like you’re ignorant on the issue as well with all that groundbreaking info you posted there.


Nice work detective.
Posted by Dogfish
Member since Nov 2015
1248 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 6:45 am to
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They are the most consistent program in college football over the last half decade.


Good point. Couple thoughts on this list and how things have changed. Firstly, the schools that have long since stopped being committed to playing major college football like Yale should be delisted.

Notre Dame used to be the only school that could truly recruit nationally through a nationwide network of Catholic Parochial Schools that where often football factories. Everyone one else was largely confined to in state or regional high school players. That has changed.

Alabama has now clearly entered into an undisputed era of top billing. Arguably the two greatest Head coaches of all time. They’re going to be on top for a long time even if they have a prolonged downturn.

Ohio State has four coaches that have won a national championship. Ohio State is the most consistent even though they’ve never been considered the top program. Oklahoma, Michigan, USC, Notre Dame and Alabama at some point in their history could make a reasonable claim to being king.


This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 6:48 am
Posted by bamagreycoat
Member since Oct 2012
5749 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 7:22 am to
With the amount of talent the state of Louisiana has always home grown, its amazing to me that LSU didn’t become truly elite until 2001. Could you imagine what Bear Bryant could have done in Red Stick from 1958-1982? It took Dinardo and then Saban to finally utilize home grown talent and now the flood gates are open forever.
Posted by Fairbanks
Member since Aug 2019
80 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 7:37 am to
Yale at #7 is hilarious.
Posted by Fairbanks
Member since Aug 2019
80 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 7:38 am to
Dinardo sucked.
Posted by bamagreycoat
Member since Oct 2012
5749 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 7:40 am to
Yes he failed to win any hardware but you gotta give Dinardo credit for beginning the attitude of keeping Louisiana boys in purple and gold. Then Saban perfected it.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 7:53 am to
This guy was high as shite when he wrote that. Having Yake and a FCS team...you're trying to hard.
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