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re: Downsizing Stadiums in the SEC

Posted on 1/18/19 at 8:49 pm to
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 8:49 pm to
But you are trying to explain the justification of expansion . School s do not expand for ticket sales and some of the reasons are now becoming obsolete .
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11455 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 8:49 pm to
Let's see, choice A) spend $50 per ticket to see Bama (or any other SEC school) play Podunk Tech so you can afford to take your kid(s), wife too if she wants, another $100-$150 for concessions, programs, and souvenirs, another $125 for hotel room since I live 5 to 6 hours from Tuscaloosa when I don't sit in traffic, climb those damn ramps to the upper deck, sit in Alabama September heat aka just this side of hell, watch Bama brutalize said cupcake, then sit in traffic for an hour to get out of Title town, while missing all the other good games that Saturday. Grand total=easily high hundreds, if not 4 figures.

Choice B) sit at home in my air conditioned living room while flipping between the 7-8 games on TV(s), drinking and eating my choice of food and adult beverage while the wife and kids are off doing other things.

I do love the experience and I still go at least once a year, but dammit, it's getting harder to swallow as choice B keeps getting better and better while choice A just keeps getting more expensive but the quality remains the same.
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
1750 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:00 pm to
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But you are trying to explain the justification of expansion . School s do not expand for ticket sales and some of the reasons are now becoming obsolete .




The rennovations were already needed, and A&M added a lot of premium seating that they’re charging more money for. If you’re going to put in the time and money to do the work to 3 of the 4 sides of the stadium, it made sense for A&M to expand at the same time. In years when demand is high (which has been every year since expansion so far), they’ll make more money than they would have if they only maintained capacity.

If demand dips, there will be empty seats in the upper corners of the endzone. When demand comes back they will once again be selling 10k more tickets/game than they would have.
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 9:03 pm
Posted by OKTGR580
Baton Rouge to Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2018
6318 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:04 pm to
I want to see LSU remove some of the upper deck seating and add more suites above the north endzone for a more symmetrical look. Picture a Lambeau style with the suites wrapping all the way around in a horseshoe shape.

85K is plenty. Maybe do some sort of expansion where it’s 85K but it can hold an extra 10K for those big matchups that come once every other season.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:35 pm to
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If demand dips, there will be empty seats in the upper corners of the endzone. When demand comes back they will once again be selling 10k more tickets/game than they would have.



And every time you see empty seats at Kyle Field, the public perspective will be that A&M doesn't support their team. The public doesn't care that it is a empty stadium that holds 100K or 80k. I'm sure there is a game every few years that the demand could sell 150K. Why not build that stadium ?
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 9:37 pm
Posted by I Eat Tide Pods
Member since Dec 2018
264 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:40 pm to
The easiest fix is stop scheduling shitty games.
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
1750 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:40 pm to
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And every time you see empty seats at Kyle Field, the public perspective will be that A&M doesn't support their team. The public doesn't care that it is a empty stadium that holds 100K or 80k.


We’re starting to go in circles here, so I’m not sure what to tell you other than to contact the A&M athletic dept next time they make a $500mm move. You can throw your $.02 into the conversation with the people who are paid lots of money to study these situations and make decisions.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:51 pm to
No , that is where ego stepped in. A&M has the money and the want to buy themselves into the conversation with other programs. They want to be bigger than UT and they wanted to be talked about with the other 100K club members. They assumed if they built it , Championships would come.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50309 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 10:00 pm to
We built it because we fricking could.

We also built it because our alumni base is about to be the largest there is. We are not all that far from having 75k on campus.
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
1750 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 10:06 pm to
Roundabout way of getting there, but I’m glad you were able to finally comprehend the logic:

Yes, we are hopeful that the revenue and atmosphere generated by having badass facilities will help us to win championships.

In the mean time we’ll continue to be top 5 in attendance in the country every year since 2014...

LINK

And have what Forbes says is the most valuable team in college football...

LINK
Posted by CajunTiger_225
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
9201 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 10:13 pm to
Haven't decided if I agree with that obnoxious screen being on the terrace.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42621 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 10:15 pm to
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Could this be the beginning of a trend and how long before Tennessee shrinks Neyland to 70k or so, which is what that place was meant to be in the first place.



This is flat out wrong. Neyland was designed by Neyland to be 100k. It's not his fault Americans got really fricking fat afterwards.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6942 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 10:15 pm to
As TV and bowl revenues continue to climb there is less need for ticket revenue to make a profit. NFL teams would be profitable if they didn't sell a single seat.
Just think. An NFL or college stadium with a few dozen corporate suites would cost one quarter of what Jerryville cost in Dallas and fans could watch every game on NFL Network and ESPN pay-per-view at $20 a game. With the growth of streaming I look for this to happen within five years.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 10:20 pm to
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Imagine being A&M. They built a stadium for 100k fans and never could get 80k to show up regularly anyway.

You're a jealous little dumbfrick. Still raw about not getting to expand Memorial?
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 10:59 pm to
quote:

And every time you see empty seats at Kyle Field, the public perspective will be that A&M doesn't support their team.


Then almost every fanbase in the country doesn’t support their team some games.

The reality is A&M has a lot of student participation in a prime part of the stadium, so we had to expand just to give enough decent seats to visiting SEC teams. Few programs have the student attendance we do.
Posted by WDE_315
ATL
Member since Mar 2012
175 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:21 pm to
I could be wrong but you’ve probably never to the campus
Posted by Bbobalou
Where the action is.
Member since Oct 2012
5105 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 12:35 am to
Say what you want. Sitting in a stadium when its hot as hell with people you don't know in a space that is tight af sweating your arse off. Hmmm...

Or sit at home and watch other games and replays of your game. Have a cold one with the a/c on.

You.make the call.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21875 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 12:46 am to
A&M has no need to downsize. Lots of young, rich alumni according to all the reports. You do not understand how large the school is getting, and the demand for seats - and it is nice seating, at least in the alumni areas

Do not forget that A&M reserves a quarter or more of the capacity of the stadium for students, and they also get premium seating. Way more than any team out there.
This post was edited on 1/19/19 at 8:02 am
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15777 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 7:04 am to
I’m not fat.

However, IF anyone in your row is big, it crowds everyone together.

Seats should be bigger. Having chair seats with armrests keeps everyone from spilling into another seat.
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
5655 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 7:09 am to
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Athletic departments don’t give a shite about downsizing and people not going as long as those seats are bought and paid for.


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