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re: Downsizing Stadiums in the SEC

Posted on 1/18/19 at 5:17 pm to
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 5:17 pm to
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Honestly most stadiums should down size for better seats. Attendance is on the decline. Improve the experience so that the people that do come keep going to your games.

That’s what Florida’s Scott Strickland is basically saying ... he wants to improve the fan experience.

The other issue, and this is true for most programs in the conference these days, is that fan are not traveling like they used to because of expenses.

SC fans bought 4,000 tickets to the Florida game in Gainesville this past season, and that was by far the most of any visiting fan base on UF’s schedule.

The SEC programs used to regularly swap out 8k tickets with each other, sometimes 10k as both SC and UGA and SC and UT did back in the late 90s and early 2000s.

Both Florida and Bama ADs have expressed displeasure and disappointment with their students for failing to show. We don’t have that problem at SC ... at least not yet. Our problem is them leaving at halftime getting drunk.

But downsizing is the way of the future. It’s the same in the B1G. I’ve been to three Michigan games in the past four years, big games, rivalry games ... and the big house is never packed to capacity.
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 5:19 pm to
Posted by joshua2571
Member since Nov 2015
8137 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 5:19 pm to
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Bama actually has sellouts



Probably not anymore after the 44-16 skull dragging.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 5:34 pm to
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Renovating Kyle field to 90k vs 100k probably cost about the same.

If you get 90k for 5 games and 100k for 2 games a year, that’s an additional $1mm in revenue for each of those 100k games.

A&M has averaged over 98k for the last 4 years, 3 of which were over 100k.


The perception of empty seats on a program cost more than $1M revenue. When you have empty seats the premium ticket buyers will question the need to buy season tickets well in advanced. I have said it before, if you paid the premium Stubhub prices for the games that are worth seeing, most fans would cut their cost in half and would probably have better seats.
Posted by City Ham
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2018
624 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 5:36 pm to
How does one know the attendance decline is here to stay?

Arkansas just expanded Razorback Stadium!!
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19062 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 5:36 pm to
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add their new jumbotron in the upper deck of the end zone.

Jumbotrons should be illegal. I hate those things.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72175 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 5:36 pm to
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Probably not anymore after the 44-16 skull dragging.


Nah. Alabama will be fine. That’s for your concern, bet Welcher.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 5:39 pm to
We are dropping about 8k with our new Endzone complex. I honestly wish they would drop a country or thousand more and replace our bleachers with seat backs.
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
1750 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 5:57 pm to
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The perception of empty seats on a program cost more than $1M revenue. When you have empty seats the premium ticket buyers will question the need to buy season tickets well in advanced. I have said it before, if you paid the premium Stubhub prices for the games that are worth seeing, most fans would cut their cost in half and would probably have better seats.




A&M has sold, on average, over 100k/game for the last 4 years, so hasn’t hurt too much.


Over 7 home games/yr, that’s an additional $28mm in rev over that period vs a 90k seat stadium, not even including the additional donations required for each seat.
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 6:35 pm
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11661 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 5:58 pm to
Yeah right.....my God some of you are just F stupid.
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
32490 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 5:59 pm to
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Universities would have an easier time filling stadiums if the ticket-price bubble would burst.

I don’t think I would pay anything to sit in the uppers. It would have to be a huge matchup.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 6:04 pm to
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How does one know the attendance decline is here to stay?

Arkansas just expanded Razorback Stadium!!



Why though? Arkansas just had their lowest avg attendance since 2001?
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68292 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 6:08 pm to
The next big wave in stadiums will be removing capacity to add in a more premium experience. Planes are moving more and more towards premium seating, people are willing to pay a little more for a better experience these days.

Theres also more money to be made doing this.
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 6:09 pm
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 6:15 pm to
Yup, even while our attendance has been incredibly poor we have a waiting list on luxury boxes and can’t build them fast enough.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164088 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 6:23 pm to
Athletic departments don’t give a shite about downsizing and people not going as long as those seats are bought and paid for.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 6:33 pm to
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A&M has sold, on average, over 100k/game for the last 4 years, so hasn’t hurt too much.


Over 7 home games/yr, that’s an additional $28mm in rev over that period vs a 90k seat stadium.




Please explain that math ?
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29128 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 6:34 pm to
Get rid of bleachers and replace all seating with chair backs would be a good start.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29128 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 6:35 pm to
And that expansion has been a huge fiasco.
Posted by Torch
Northshore Dr
Member since Feb 2017
3282 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 6:38 pm to
28 games x 10,000 seats = 280,000 so I guess he's saying all the seats are 100 bucks? Kind of a rip, considering all the cheerleaders are dudes.
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
1750 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 6:41 pm to
4 yrs * 7 home games/yr * $100/ticket * 10,000 ticket delta = $28,000,000 delta

$100ticket is estimated. With parking, concessions, donations, etc...the number is probably higher than $100 on average.
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