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re: Downside of being Bama
Posted on 10/22/17 at 1:43 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 10/22/17 at 1:43 pm to SummerOfGeorge
You guys keep moving the goal posts. I'm just giving you facts, records, stats and you guys keep pretending Bryant and Saban are the norm. That's just wishful thinking . You are subject to the same forces as Notre Dame, Michigan, USC, Miami, FSU, and everybody else.
Posted on 10/22/17 at 1:51 pm to MarcusQuinn
I will admit that the only downside of rooting for an extremely successful team is when experiencing a loss because it's become so foreign and seems more painful; you are plagued with the lingering feeling for a while that your team could or should've won it had something been executed differently, but, with that being said, those games are far and few between, and I wouldn't exchange that for being average or below average. That logic doesn't even make sense to me. The last championship game I actually took the outcome better than I expected, though. Losing is apart of the game, and you can't always win, plus it makes you motivated and hungry and to want to see more success. It still gnaws at me from time to time, not gonna lie, but like I said, it makes me really want to get to the playoffs and win another title.
Posted on 10/22/17 at 1:52 pm to Lsupimp
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pretending Bryant and Saban are the norm
Our ratio of Sabans to Shula is much higher than almost any other CFB program.
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Posted on 10/22/17 at 1:59 pm to MarcusQuinn
I love winning. Upsets are overrated. Give me relevance every year instead
Bama fans have it good. I wish my team could win minimum 7 game per year. Too much to ask of BO
Bama fans have it good. I wish my team could win minimum 7 game per year. Too much to ask of BO
Posted on 10/22/17 at 2:16 pm to MarcusQuinn
when you can marry your sister and your kids are your cousins and brothers and sisters life is good at Bama.
Posted on 10/22/17 at 2:17 pm to BarnHater
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Agreed their fans must be so depressed to keep winning all their games. I'm glad I don't know what that's like. Why would any fan wish that much success on their team?
Posted on 10/22/17 at 2:18 pm to stat19
We don’t storm the field - NEVER! We act like we’ve been there before. Well, I. Our case we have... multiple times.
Posted on 10/22/17 at 2:20 pm to Lsupimp
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The downside is the karma . The football Gods will punish them for 20/30 years after this . The losses , the parade of coaches. And all that insufferable redneckery will be repaid in full.
Posted on 10/22/17 at 2:38 pm to MarcusQuinn
Not really! We don't storm the field. We act like we have been there BECAUSE, WE HAVE!!
Posted on 10/22/17 at 2:41 pm to cyde
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We've replaced it with the excitement and euphoria of upsetting rival fans.
Well, y'all have definitely been rolling there!
I think, in some ways, you have crushed all hope from any Tenn fan.
And after this year, LSU may throw in the towel.
Posted on 10/22/17 at 2:50 pm to MarcusQuinn
This is like the downside of being Brad Pitt. Everything is just too easy. If I had the choice, I would still choose to be Brad Pitt.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 2:43 am to Lsupimp
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13th out of 120 programs is hardly average. Great no, good, yes. During the 24 seasons between Bryant and Saban there were 3 SECCs, 1 NC, 9 10 win seasons, 5 of first 8 SECC games.
Lsupimp:
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After Bear, From 1983-2007 Bama football was, with the exception of a single year, a very average program. College football warehouse has Alabama as the 16th best program of the 80s, the twelfth best of the 90's and the eleventh best of the 00's. 16, 12 and eleven. That's a composite of 13. So yeah.
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13th out of 120 programs is hardly average. Great no, good, yes. During the 24 seasons between Bryant and Saban there were 3 SECCs, 1 NC, 9 10 win seasons, 5 of first 8 SECC games.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 2:52 am to MarcusQuinn
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getting a blowjob is a great, granted. Not discounting that, but... it must kinda suck to expect a blowjob every single night. Where is the excitement and euphoria of getting head? If you are rarely getting head and start to talk to a hot chick, it’s a huge opportunity. If you get head, you celebrate. You talk about it for months. It’s unexpected. If you are always getting blowjobs, where is the excitement? You expect to get blown everyday. If you do, so what? If you are challenged and don’t get any, you are disappointed. If you don't get head, it’s a huge gut punch. No feeling that you are making progress, reloading. No moral victories. You have nowhere to go but down. Locked in at the top, there are no peaks and valleys and none of the highs that go with that. Again, any man would trade, but on some level always expecting blowjobs, daily, seems like a buzzkill.
To use your logic in something completely different. See how dumb you sound?
Posted on 10/23/17 at 3:13 am to CCTider
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getting a blowjob is a great, granted. Not discounting that, but... it must kinda suck to expect a blowjob every single night. Where is the excitement and euphoria of getting head? If you are rarely getting head and start to talk to a hot chick, it’s a huge opportunity. If you get head, you celebrate. You talk about it for months. It’s unexpected. If you are always getting blowjobs, where is the excitement? You expect to get blown everyday. If you do, so what? If you are challenged and don’t get any, you are disappointed. If you don't get head, it’s a huge gut punch. No feeling that you are making progress, reloading. No moral victories. You have nowhere to go but down. Locked in at the top, there are no peaks and valleys and none of the highs that go with that. Again, any man would trade, but on some level always expecting blowjobs, daily, seems like a buzzkill.
Absolutely brilliant.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 3:24 am to DrownEmTide
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What a lot of people forget is that every team Bama plays gives them their best shot. Staying on top is probably harder than getting there.
Stadiums are louder when Bama comes to town. Opposing coaches probably put in a little more time and effort the week leading up to the Bama game. Everyone wants a piece of Bama until they get it.
This hits the nail on the head, Bama has been every team’s Super Bowl even when they weren’t as good as they are now simply because Bama has historically owned the SEC and college football in general. Teams that beat Bama in the down times beat their chests for beating a team they should beat just makes it sweeter for Bama fans now that the losses are few and far between
Posted on 10/23/17 at 3:57 am to Lsupimp
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In the sense that everyone needs a good coach, yes. But Bama has had 5 coaches in its history with at least 7 years and a winning % greater than 80. The rest of the SEC combined has had 3: Neyland, Spurrier, Meyer.
Wade: 8 years, 81.2%, 3 NCs
Thomas: 15 years, 81.2%, 1 NC (I don't count bogus 1941)
Bryant: 25 years, 82.4%, 6 NCs
Stallings: 7 years, 81.0%, 1 NC
Saban: 10+ years, 87.0%, 4 NCs
There were 20 open Rose Bowls from 1925-1946, Bama took 6 undefeated, untied teams and was 4-1-1. The rest of the SEC combined was 2-3 and rest of the nation was 4-10. 1946 was the last year of "open" Rose Bowls, the beginning of the PAC8/Big10 agreement.
The 24 years from 1923-1946 Bama had a winning% of 81.2, including 9 years from '30-'38 when it was 88.8%. Coach Bryant's 25 years was 82.4%.
Even after Coach Bryant's tenure from 1983-1996 Bama's on field winning % was 75.1, 7th in the nation. Arrogant and incompetent leadership led to bad hires, Bama's only NCAA problems and severe scholarship losses from 1997-2006. Even then Bama won an SEC title and had 3 10 win seasons.
So 66 of the last 92 years Bama has been coached by coaches who won more than 80% of their games at Bama. Their records apart from Bama were not like that, not Coach Wade, Coach Thomas, even Coach Bryant or Coach Saban. Again, the rest of the SEC combined has only had 3 such coaches. Even without Bryant and Saban, with 5 other coaches, Bama has 8 SEC titles good for a tie with UF and AU for 4th behind UT, UGA and LSU. Bama has 2 NCs tied, with UT and AU for 3rd behind LSU and UF with 3. And that's missing the 35 years of Bryant and Saban.
Yes, it takes good coaching, but it's certainly interesting that Bama has had a massively inordinate number of "good" coaches.
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Great. We agree then. For a 25 year stretch (with the exception of 92) you guys were a composite 10-15 ranked program and you acknowledge that. Perkins (32-15), Curry (26-10), Stallings (70-16), Dubose (24-23), Franchione (17-8), Price (strip cub 1 Bama 0), Shula (20-15) et al. It looks like Bama is subject to the same forces of nature as everybody else. You get a good coach (Stallings) and you win. You don't and you lose. We can revisit this again in five years and then again five years after that. Enjoy now. Because there are more Shulas and Duboses in your future. Just like everybody else.
In the sense that everyone needs a good coach, yes. But Bama has had 5 coaches in its history with at least 7 years and a winning % greater than 80. The rest of the SEC combined has had 3: Neyland, Spurrier, Meyer.
Wade: 8 years, 81.2%, 3 NCs
Thomas: 15 years, 81.2%, 1 NC (I don't count bogus 1941)
Bryant: 25 years, 82.4%, 6 NCs
Stallings: 7 years, 81.0%, 1 NC
Saban: 10+ years, 87.0%, 4 NCs
There were 20 open Rose Bowls from 1925-1946, Bama took 6 undefeated, untied teams and was 4-1-1. The rest of the SEC combined was 2-3 and rest of the nation was 4-10. 1946 was the last year of "open" Rose Bowls, the beginning of the PAC8/Big10 agreement.
The 24 years from 1923-1946 Bama had a winning% of 81.2, including 9 years from '30-'38 when it was 88.8%. Coach Bryant's 25 years was 82.4%.
Even after Coach Bryant's tenure from 1983-1996 Bama's on field winning % was 75.1, 7th in the nation. Arrogant and incompetent leadership led to bad hires, Bama's only NCAA problems and severe scholarship losses from 1997-2006. Even then Bama won an SEC title and had 3 10 win seasons.
So 66 of the last 92 years Bama has been coached by coaches who won more than 80% of their games at Bama. Their records apart from Bama were not like that, not Coach Wade, Coach Thomas, even Coach Bryant or Coach Saban. Again, the rest of the SEC combined has only had 3 such coaches. Even without Bryant and Saban, with 5 other coaches, Bama has 8 SEC titles good for a tie with UF and AU for 4th behind UT, UGA and LSU. Bama has 2 NCs tied, with UT and AU for 3rd behind LSU and UF with 3. And that's missing the 35 years of Bryant and Saban.
Yes, it takes good coaching, but it's certainly interesting that Bama has had a massively inordinate number of "good" coaches.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 4:00 am to MarcusQuinn
There's not much of an upside that I can see.
Thank Christ I wasn't born into the gump world.
Thank Christ I wasn't born into the gump world.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 7:37 am to MarcusQuinn
I absolutely enjoy the winning, especially when we demoralize the opponent.
I will admit though that I miss the nervous anticipation I used to get on Friday nights and Saturday mornings. Only get that once or twice a year these days.
And that's not really true. What would you have said in 2008 or 2009 if someone had told you Saban was using a dual threat QB in 2016 and 2017 with lots of designed Qb runs? Even his defense has evolved from his base 3-4 to more of a Nickel base defense. It's been fun to watch his philosophy change with the game.
I will admit though that I miss the nervous anticipation I used to get on Friday nights and Saturday mornings. Only get that once or twice a year these days.
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No feeling that you are making progress
And that's not really true. What would you have said in 2008 or 2009 if someone had told you Saban was using a dual threat QB in 2016 and 2017 with lots of designed Qb runs? Even his defense has evolved from his base 3-4 to more of a Nickel base defense. It's been fun to watch his philosophy change with the game.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 8:32 am to MarcusQuinn
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Downside of being Bama
Your girlfriend is actually your sister.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 8:34 am to MarcusQuinn
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it must kinda suck to expect to win every single time.
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 8:40 am
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