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Posted on 11/8/19 at 10:09 am to Toroballistic
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As already stated it was 1941, but in the interest of accuracy Bama went 9-2, not 8-3. Still shouldn't claim that one.
Absolutely.
Who could ever justify winning a national title with 2 losses?
Posted on 11/8/19 at 10:10 am to nicholastiger
You frick nuggets know all these different polls are why we had the BCS and now the playoffs, right? And just for you feeble minded coonasses, "The 'Houlgate System' is one of the selectors of historic national champions recognized as a major selector by the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA)" Yeah, you've never heard of it because it isn't used anymore. Sorry y'all are new to being relevant in football.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 10:11 am to John Wick
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Remember the national championship game of 1973?
Notre Dame won, but Bama claims it.
'73 isn't one Bama claims; that one was awarded to us with a beautiful trophy.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 10:11 am to Funky Tide 8
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damn, just looked at Arkansas's schedule results that year. Allowed only 7 points total in the last 6 games with 5 shutouts in a row before the bowl game. Impressive.
Very similar to Alabama's 1961 season. '61 team allowed a total of 25 points the entire season.
ZERO TDs after October 14th. Also 5 consecutive shutouts.
LINK
This post was edited on 11/8/19 at 10:15 am
Posted on 11/8/19 at 10:12 am to bstew3006
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In the mid to late 80s, UA said FK it and claimed about 5 or 6.
Because everyone else was retroactively claiming national championships at that time. And it was done for one reason and one reason only: recruiting.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 10:12 am to skrayper
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Who could ever justify winning a national title with 2 losses?
Its ridiculous! Like not winning your division or conference.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 10:13 am to RollTide1987
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And it was done for one reason and one reason only: recruitin
Ahh, so you agree, not legitimate championships. Thanks
Posted on 11/8/19 at 10:14 am to StopRobot
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I forget which year it was, but some fricking weatherman had them #1 in his bs poll and they claim that one. They went 8-3 that year
1941. Bama should not claim that title. Its the only one that Bama should not claim.
We don't claim 1966, so we're even.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 10:15 am to RollTide1987
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Why don't you do basic research before you come into this thread looking like a retard? If you're going to troll, at least do it intelligently. A simple google search would have saved you the two minutes it took you to type this nonsense.
Why don't you follow your own advise, you Bammer stupid jackass.
1925 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with Dartmouth. Who awarded the NC? Houlgate and Helms. Houlgate started his system in 1927. So Bama won their 1925 NC using a formula that didn’t exist until 1927? Helms Athletic Foundation started in 1941. Another incredible retroactive NC.
The Associated Press Poll has been active since 1936. The AP took their final poll prior to bowl games from 1936 – 1964 and in 1966 and 1967. They took their final poll after the bowl games in 1965 and from 1968 – Current.
1926 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with 3 other teams with equal or better records! Once again it is the Helms Athletic Foundation in 1941 that awards it!
1930 National Championship- The Davis poll says that Bama tied Notre Dame for NC this year. This was the only one to award it to Bama. Notre Dame was named NC in 6 polls! Parke Davis is another retroactive system! He (an individual, not an organization) did his in 1933!
1934 National Championship- Alabama says they share this with two other teams. The awarders are Dunkel, Williamson, and Football Thesaurus. Dunkel was an individual who came up with his own system. Williamson was a geologist who came up with his own system. Football Thesaurus first appeared in 1946!
1941 National Championship- This is a complete joke. The AP ranked Alabama 20th in the nation with 14 teams with better records in the top 20. Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards it. Alabama finished 3rd in the SEC that year. Mississippi State won the SEC title..yet Bama claims a National title!
Posted on 11/8/19 at 10:16 am to bstew3006
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Ahh, so you agree, not legitimate championships.
About as non-legitimate as everyone else who claims national championships prior to 1936. I'm fine with pretending football wasn't played between 1869-1936 if you are.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 10:18 am to John Wick
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John Wick
You just dismantled your original argument. You might want to go back and re-read what you originally typed and then read your rebuttal to my response.
This post was edited on 11/8/19 at 10:23 am
Posted on 11/8/19 at 10:20 am to Glorious
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Do yall really claim Texas as a top-10 win?
Tejas would absolutely wreck anybody Bama has played this year.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 10:21 am to John Wick
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Bama likes to claim any open or unclaimed championship.
They do that for the years 1925, 1926, 1930, 1934, 1941.
All of those are "retroactive championships". No one was named, so Bama claimed them.
Completely false. They were not retroactive. They were awarded by entities that other schools also use
1925: Bama was undefeated and won the Rose Bowl. Dartmouth also claims
1926: Co national champions with Stanford which Stanford also claims
1930: Undefeated Bama wins the Rose Bowl again. Notre Dame also claims this title. Did not play in a bowl game.
1934: Undefeated Bama wins the Rose Bowl AGAIN. Minnesota who didnt play in a bowl game also claims this title
1941: Minnesota claims
Posted on 11/8/19 at 10:21 am to Rhino5
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Toss in 1973 as well.
There’s several titles they claim where they lost their bowl game, but instead claimed it at the end of the regular season
Up until 1975, teams could win the national title without playing in a bowl game (1957 ring a bell.)
Alabama has had all of its national title winning teams in a bowl game. Most teams that won multiple national titles prior to 1970 did not have them end in bowls.
This post was edited on 11/8/19 at 10:31 am
Posted on 11/8/19 at 10:23 am to Rhino5
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Toss in 1973 as well.
There’s several titles they claim where they lost their bowl game, but instead claimed it at the end of the regular season.
Again, find me one school that doesn't claim AP/Coaches Poll titles awarded.
One.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 10:23 am to nicholastiger
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Does Bama really claim a 1978 national title?
No, they don't have to "claim it", they have the trophy they were awarded by the AP as national champs.
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Bama was #1 in AP poll
Posted on 11/8/19 at 10:23 am to Hangit
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Tejas would absolutely wreck anybody Bama has played this year.
Texas lost to TCU and nearly lost to Kansas.
So yea I'll disagree
Posted on 11/8/19 at 10:24 am to Hangit
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Tejas would absolutely wreck anybody Bama has played this year.
There is nothing to suggest that Texas is any better than Texas A&M
Texas playing at South Carolina would pretty much be a toss up
This post was edited on 11/8/19 at 10:29 am
Posted on 11/8/19 at 10:24 am to RollTide1987
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You just dismantled your original argument and did it by calling ME stupid. You might want to go back and read what you originally typed and then read your rebuttal to my response.
Bammer stupid is obviously real.
I said:
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1925, 1926, 1930, 1934, 1941.
All of those are "retroactive championships". No one was named, so Bama claimed them
Your Bammer stupid arse says:
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Why don't you do basic research before you come into this thread looking like a retard? If you're going to troll, at least do it intelligently. A simple google search would have saved you the two minutes it took you to type this nonsense.
So, here are the results, you stupid-assed, inbred moron.
They back up EVERY WORD I SAID! Idiot.
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1925 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with Dartmouth. Who awarded the NC? Houlgate and Helms. Houlgate started his system in 1927. So Bama won their 1925 NC using a formula that didn’t exist until 1927? Helms Athletic Foundation started in 1941. Another incredible retroactive NC.
The Associated Press Poll has been active since 1936. The AP took their final poll prior to bowl games from 1936 – 1964 and in 1966 and 1967. They took their final poll after the bowl games in 1965 and from 1968 – Current.
1926 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with 3 other teams with equal or better records! Once again it is the Helms Athletic Foundation in 1941 that awards it!
1930 National Championship- The Davis poll says that Bama tied Notre Dame for NC this year. This was the only one to award it to Bama. Notre Dame was named NC in 6 polls! Parke Davis is another retroactive system! He (an individual, not an organization) did his in 1933!
1934 National Championship- Alabama says they share this with two other teams. The awarders are Dunkel, Williamson, and Football Thesaurus. Dunkel was an individual who came up with his own system. Williamson was a geologist who came up with his own system. Football Thesaurus first appeared in 1946!
1941 National Championship- This is a complete joke. The AP ranked Alabama 20th in the nation with 14 teams with better records in the top 20. Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards it. Alabama finished 3rd in the SEC that year. Mississippi State won the SEC title..yet Bama claims a National title!
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