re: Does Bama really claim a 1978 national title?

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I'm saying you don't get to retroactively claim championships.

That's bullshite.

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My goodness child, you have twisted yourself up into knots.


Before 1936 the winner of the Rose Bowl, if unbeaten, was considered the one of the national title winners. Alabama was awarded the national titles after winning the Rose Bowl. If you have a problem with how they did it back then, talk to them.

A comparison would be the 2003 USC football team with the 2003 LSU team both won the national title, according to different polls.

Can you name a school that doesn't claim a poll title? While the '41 claim is ridiculous, this one is valid. We were ranked #2 in both polls and beat the #1 team in both polls (Penn State) in the Sugar Bowl so the AP awarded the national championship to Bama. USC beat us earlier in the year but later lost by two TDs to an unranked team; after USC's loss to Arizona State, the coaches ranked Bama ahead of USC in the rest of the regular season polls. Only after Bama beat Penn State did the coaches jump USC over Bama in their final poll, from #3 to #1 (the #1 votes were even among the two schools, 15 to 15). Name another time in the post-bowl poll era when #2 beat #1 in the last game and the #2 team stayed #2 in that poll...

Does LSU really claim 2003? USC was ranked #1 in both polls and the BCS chose the #2 and #3 teams instead; USC beat a Big 10 champion in the Rose Bowl while LSU beat a non-conference champion in the BCSCG. The AP voted USC #1 while the coaches poll, which required all coaches to vote for the BCS champion, voted LSU #1 (3 coaches went against that though and voted for USC). There are many national titles that can be nit-picked, not just Bama's...

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My goodness child, you have twisted yourself up into knots.

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Ok, let's put Bammer stupid on full display....AGAIN

In 1983 you claimed 6 NCs. You didn't really have 6, but you claimed them.

Let's say you really had 6 in 1983. You have won 6 legitimate NCs since then.

6+6=17

17? WTF? Is that Common Core or Bammer Stupid math?

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Of course they cant.

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6+6=17

17 or 12....does it really matter? In the end, either way you look at it, we've won more national championships than any other school in FBS play.

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Ok, let's put Bammer stupid on full display....AGAIN

In 1983 you claimed 6 NCs. You didn't really have 6, but you claimed them.

Let's say you really had 6 in 1983. You have won 6 legitimate NCs since then.

6+6=17

17? WTF? Is that Common Core or Bammer Stupid math?

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Ah child you failed again. Most of that media guide (you are referring to the media guide?) is Coach Bryant's accomplishments. He won 6 national titles at Alabama. When USC, Michigan, and Notre Dame started to claim pre-1936 national titles, Alabama claimed the ones Alabama won prior to 1936.

Really, if you are going to argue, at least do the research.

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Yeah no issue at all naming a national champion before the entire season plays out

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The rules of the era were the rules of the era. We look back on those years with hindsight and scoff. It still doesn't change the fact that it wasn't until the early-70s that major selectors started including the bowl season in their final vote.

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The research is in, you snot-nosed millennial

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I hope you do not do research to save lives, you stink at it.

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6+6+ Little Dick Syndrome, not 17.

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6++6+5 does

And that is how many Alabama has won on the field. Your argument is with the pollsters. By the way, Alabama has the trophies that designate Alabama being NC in 25, 26, 30, and they were awarded the year won (there are even newspapers from around the country that say the same thing on the day after Alabama won the title (1926 Jan2, for the 1925 season for example))

Why is it important for you to try and rewrite history?

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Everything before the poll era is retroactive.

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Not necessarily, some of the mathematical models were contemporary.

Yale, 1905, 1906 and 1907 aren't retroactive.

Starting in 1926, these champs were not retroactive:
1926: Stanford (Dickinson)
1927: Illinois (Dickinson), Notre Dame (Houlgate)
1928: USC (Dickinson), GIT (Houlgate)
1929: Notre Dame (Dickinson), USC (Houlgate)
1930: Notre Dame (Dickinson)(Houlgate)
1931: USC (Dickinson)(Houlgate)
1932: Michigan (Dickinson), USC (Houlgate)
1933: Multiple, with multiple contemporary selectors
1934: Alabama, Minnesota (multiple contemporary selctors)
1935: Multiple (including LSU) with multiple contemporary selectors.
1936: Multiple (including LSU) with multiple contemporary selectors. Minnesota (AP Poll)

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And that is how many Alabama has won on the field. Your argument is with the pollsters. By the way, Alabama has the trophies that designate Alabama being NC in 25, 26, 30, and they were awarded the year won

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You're a damned liar.

Bammer was NOT awarded the trophies in those years.

They were RETROACTIVELY awarded the trophies, little man.