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re: Do you anti-student athlete posters wish they were paid now?
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:09 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:09 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
quote:Off the clock, sure.
1st amendment still applies for public university employees bub.
Chinese cocksucker.
All around cocksucker.
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Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:10 pm to UKWildcats
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All around cocksucker.
Is that a problem?
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Off the clock, sure.
No, on the clock too. You can wear whatever you want. Public universities cannot ban employees from wearing BLM apparel.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:13 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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All those prices are inflated and they are worth more than the actual per person operating costs of dorms, shitty cafeteria food, etc.
You are out of your freaking mind dude. It costs $100k to graduate in 4-5 years at an SEC school. Including Mississippi State.
A player who graduates debt free is light-years ahead of someone who graduates $100k in debt.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:13 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Doing things like that in bulk usually saves money.
Sure. My point is that that part of the compensation package is really insignificant. Lots of scholarships pay for it too.
The room and board is probably the most high value for these players, but I’m pretty sure NHL is doing that right now too in addition to the paychecks.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:14 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
Good. That means they cant ban them from telling you youre a giant phaggot and general douchebag. Cry more bitch. Buh bye.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:17 pm to Jcrew
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It costs $100k to graduate in 4-5 years at an SEC school.
But that cost is bullshite.
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A player who graduates debt free is light-years ahead of someone who graduates $100k in debt.
Yes, but those athletes are better served going to non-P5 or even non-D1 schools if their main goal is the education and degree. It is easier to do athletics and get a good education at programs that aren’t part of low key pro leagues.
The star athletes are working towards the NFL. The degree is financially irrelevant to them.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:18 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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Sure. My point is that that part of the compensation package is really insignificant. Lots of scholarships pay for it too.
The room and board is probably the most high value for these players, but I’m pretty sure NHL is doing that right now too in addition to the paychecks.
Figures have placed the value of the entire package at around $150k per year at an upper tier school.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:19 pm to UKWildcats
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Cry more bitch
Sounds like you’re the one crying. You’re the one offended by players supporting social justice.
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phaggot
So edgy.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:23 pm to SidewalkTiger
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have placed the value of the entire package at around $150k per year
I’m pretty sure that’s the value based on non-scholarship price tag, which is not completely honest.
Let me put it this way, if the NFL had a legit minor league system, the degree would be worthless to the star players, and they wouldn’t play in college.
The dangling of the fake costs of the degree is only a distraction. Hell, the whole modern recruiting game is based around artificially inflating the “estimated value” of the compensation package - you know, because they can’t actually pay them real money.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:29 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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Let me put it this way, if the NFL had a legit minor league system, the degree would be worthless to the star players, and they wouldn’t play in college.
But they dont.
And they wont.
And if the athletes can come out with a degree, it will actually help them when football doesn't pan out.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:30 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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It is easier to do athletics and get a good education at programs that aren’t part of low key pro leagues.
I agree with you here. If I was a top tie athlete and value an education above all else I would got to Stanford, Notre Dame, Penn St., Duke, UVA, or Cal.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:31 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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It would be a lot easier to have a path forward if we could call student athletes “employees”.
then these "employees" would want to unionize and make more demands...
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:35 pm to SidewalkTiger
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But they dont.
And they wont
They already do, and they don’t have to pay the players.
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it will actually help them when football doesn't pan out.
Sure, but the players that drive the high viewerships and revenue are the ones heading towards NFL paydays.
That’s the whole point.
Football without high caliber athletes does not generate a lot of revenue and good ratings. We have seen this time and time again with the XFL, Alliance, etc.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:36 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
You are so awful
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:36 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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Football without high caliber athletes does not generate a lot of revenue and good ratings. We have seen this time and time again with the XFL, Alliance, etc.
Across the board, the XFL and Alliance had better quality athletes than college football.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:37 pm to LSURulzSEC
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then these "employees" would want to unionize and make more demands...
And? That may be what it takes.
We have to get past this facade of amateurism. If we continue to put our heads in the sand it will destroy college football.
Considering LSU fans are paranoid about Bama cheating, you’d think you’d want fair and reasonable rules in place before pandoras box gets opened.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:38 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
I would rather see schools do away with sports than pay athletes. College sports were not meant to be minor/developmental leagues and I think running them as such takes away from educating students.
I'm not arguing that college players are treated properly, because they're probably not. What I am arguing is that a scholarship is very generous and should be plenty incentive for college athletes. We can treat players, and students, better by removing the money grab from sports and by stop treating players as property.
But if scholarships were removed, then it wouldn't be a big deal. Students would represent their school out of pride, rather than gifts, like how it should be. Schools would have nothing to hang over the heads of athletes, and wouldn't owe them anything, either. The level of athleticism would be lower, but if that were important, than I'd watch professional sports, instead.
I'm not arguing that college players are treated properly, because they're probably not. What I am arguing is that a scholarship is very generous and should be plenty incentive for college athletes. We can treat players, and students, better by removing the money grab from sports and by stop treating players as property.
But if scholarships were removed, then it wouldn't be a big deal. Students would represent their school out of pride, rather than gifts, like how it should be. Schools would have nothing to hang over the heads of athletes, and wouldn't owe them anything, either. The level of athleticism would be lower, but if that were important, than I'd watch professional sports, instead.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:39 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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Do you anti-student athlete posters wish they were paid now?
No. If they don't like their free education most wouldn't qualify for otherwise and free training table with plush recliners in the locker room and God knows what else in their dorms along with the career marketing playing at a big-time university on national TV provides, they're welcome to go get a job and see how the rest of the world operates.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:41 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Across the board, the XFL and Alliance had better quality athletes than college football.
Not where it mattered.
They had more experienced and better conditioned players.
They did not have a QB with more raw talent than Burrow or Tua.
And the on screen product was far worse than your average SEC game.
The upper talent goes to the NFL, not the XFL.
D1 College football is the premier NFL feeder league.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:43 pm to redeye
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redeye
This is a fair take, but modern college football is just not what you are describing.
Most LSU and Bama fans would not follow the sport you are describing.
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College sports were not meant to be minor/developmental leagues
Not all are. Football 100% is.
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