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Do coaches usually survive this?
Posted on 5/27/16 at 11:23 am
Posted on 5/27/16 at 11:23 am
I think it's pretty clear, since they haven't fired him yet, that Ole Miss is not planning to offer Hugh Freeze up as a scapegoat to the NCAA, but instead are planning to retain him despite the fact that the majority of violations appear to have occurred on his watch. Now, the point of this post is not to argue whether or not he actually knew about or was involved with the cheating in any way. My question is, are there other coaches who have presided over violations of this magnitude and subsequently survived? The only one I can think of is Jim Boeheim at Syracuse, and that's a totally different sport. Are there others?
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Posted on 5/27/16 at 11:29 am to TheTideMustRoll
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My question is, are there other coaches who have presided over violations of this magnitude and subsequently survived? The only one I can think of is Jim Boeheim at Syracuse, and that's a totally different sport. Are there others?
So far Louisville has self imposed a post-season ban, some recruiting restrictions (i.e. visits, etc), and I think a scholarship or two while being pretty adamant that Pitino or Jurich won't be fired. Their President might bite it before it's all over with though.
Honestly, if I was a program dealing with violations I'd make the NCAA force me to get rid of him. If Briles could hang out as long as he did with the absolutely awful arse shite that's gone on at Baylor (and make no mistake, it's far worse than any payments to players) then why not try to wait it out?
Posted on 5/27/16 at 11:29 am to TheTideMustRoll
No. Death Penalty, keep up.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 11:31 am to ztownbird
Well, but the Louisville and Ole Miss things are not in the same stratosphere. That's the difference with that one at least.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 11:32 am to TheTideMustRoll
What magnitude?
Posted on 5/27/16 at 11:33 am to TheTideMustRoll
Freeze may stick around for the upcoming season, but after that he will leave one way or the other. Freeze is a solid coach and no way he sticks around when they have no chance of being competitive. And they can't compete without some depth.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 11:35 am to TheTideMustRoll
I said it in the NOA thread ... no way he stays.
Ole Miss has a new Chancellor.
He won't want his tenure tarnished by keeping self-confessed renegades on staff.
He'll want to set a tone for his leadership.
Anyone in his position would pull the coaching trigger. Soon.
Ole Miss has a new Chancellor.
He won't want his tenure tarnished by keeping self-confessed renegades on staff.
He'll want to set a tone for his leadership.
Anyone in his position would pull the coaching trigger. Soon.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 12:03 pm to TheTideMustRoll
No they dont. Not at all.
Ole Miss did an SMU. WHATEVER it takes. They were tired of going to Liberty Bowls and said lets go great guns and let the chips fall where they may. They didnt care. Just win at all costs.
Remember, Peyton manning wouldnt even go there.
Ole Miss did an SMU. WHATEVER it takes. They were tired of going to Liberty Bowls and said lets go great guns and let the chips fall where they may. They didnt care. Just win at all costs.
Remember, Peyton manning wouldnt even go there.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 12:24 pm to TheTideMustRoll
The majority of the violations did not occur under Hugh.
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There may be more than we fans know about right now, but per ESPN, the majority of football violations did not occur under Freeze.
Also, I don't condone what we've done. It's saddening that we did these things.
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Thirteen of the 28 NCAA allegations involve the football program. Eight were Level 1 violations, the most severe -- four allegedly during the Hugh Freeze era and four under the previous coaching staff.
There may be more than we fans know about right now, but per ESPN, the majority of football violations did not occur under Freeze.
Also, I don't condone what we've done. It's saddening that we did these things.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 12:30 pm to Walker_Abel
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The majority of the violations did not occur under Hugh
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Eight were Level 1 violations, the most severe -- four allegedly during the Hugh Freeze era and four under the previous coaching staff.
Fifty percent of the most severe violations occurred under the current coach.
I'd be very concerned with any Level I violation committed by my team's current coaching staff.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 12:50 pm to EKG
Program consistency. Key to success.
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Posted on 5/27/16 at 12:52 pm to TouchdownTony
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Ole Miss did an SMU.
Laremy Tunsil killed 5 hookers?
Posted on 5/27/16 at 12:54 pm to TheTideMustRoll
I think it's clear Ole Miss is keeping Freeze so that they can fire him if they need to avoid other penalties like a post-season ban. I think they've only kept him as a bargaining chip.
Posted on 5/27/16 at 1:05 pm to BarkRuffalo
Back to the OP question, didnt Pat Dye have a pretty good run?
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