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re: Did LSU provide a blueprint to stopping Bama's offense?

Posted on 11/6/16 at 12:59 pm to
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26957 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 12:59 pm to
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Running between the tackles was working every time we did it.


Bull fricking shite. Did you even watch the fricking game? You have an opinion...fine. But don't be stupid.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34507 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 1:08 pm to
I feel like if Scarborough would have kept getting the ball they would have wore us out..

Fortunately for bama they won't see a defense close to the caliber of lsu for the rest of the year
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18182 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 1:19 pm to
Personnel aside, no one can match that atmosphere in DV at night or the intensity/focus the LSU players had for this game to snap a streak that they have taken very personally.

So, no.

Even with the above and in spite of horrible field position most every drive, Bama was able to move the ball.

They had 16 first downs to LSUs 6 and finished with 300+ yds from scrimmage with 200+ on the ground.

I liked the playcalling. Not sure why CLK is getting shite on for it. Aranda had a great game plan to contain hurts. The run pass mix that CLK used was effective in controlling the ball (33:55 TOP) and limiting mistakes with a true fresh QB in a very hostile environment... and he still threw a pick and fumbled twice (lost 1)

Again, no other team in the country can match the conditions Bama faced last night from LSUS talent, drive, etc. So it wouldn't be a very good blueprint for others IMO
This post was edited on 11/6/16 at 1:21 pm
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19065 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

Kiffin's stubborn arse play calling was horrendous.

that is a true statement. but, let's face it Hurts can't throw anything but slip screens and deep balls.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 1:22 pm to
Let's be honest here..........bama's O hasn't been some juggernaut this entire season. If you look at the scores of games, they have been skewed from the bama D scoring points. bama has a good O, but it's nothing special. Now that bama D.....that is a different story.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 1:24 pm to
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There are also other fairly easy routes he could have called instead of that crap behind the line and some of those low % ones 50 yds downfield.


Your entire offense all season long has been shovel passes and passes thrown at/near the LOS. It's because Hurts can't throw over the middle.
Posted by 25mellon
Pittsburgh
Member since Nov 2015
403 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 1:26 pm to
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blueprint to stopping Bama's offense?


I think that to find the blueprint to stop Bama, you need to go a lot higher than any one team.
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 1:39 pm to
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Your entire offense all season long has been shovel passes and passes thrown at/near the LOS. It's because Hurts can't throw over the middle.


No. There have been some nice long balls, and there was one last night, so it's not that he doesn't have a strong enough arm, but that he's inconsistent. Kiffin and Saban don't have enough confidence in him to throw over the middle because of the bad things, like interceptions, that can happen to an inconsistent young qb.

He's a true freshman, and there is a good likelihood that he'll get better, become more consistent, and the coaches will be more confident in opening up the playbook. When that happens, Alabama will be truly dangerous to play, given his already proven ability to scramble and run the ball on designated qb keepers, the fact that UA always has good rbs, and great defense.
This post was edited on 11/6/16 at 1:43 pm
Posted by AllbyMyRelf
Virginia
Member since Nov 2014
3323 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 1:40 pm to
Absolutely. Get ready to pucker up.
Posted by droliver
Member since Nov 2012
971 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 1:46 pm to
I don't know about a "blueprint". After Alabama, LSU has arguably the best "Jimmies and Joes" on the field on the defensive side of the ball.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 1:50 pm to
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No. There have been some nice long balls, and there was one last night, so it's not that he doesn't have a strong enough arm, but that he's inconsistent. Kiffin and Saban don't have enough confidence in him to throw over the middle because of the bad things, like interceptions, that can happen to an inconsistent young qb.



Long balls aren't difficult passes. Most of them are pre-snap reads anyways. Last stat I saw was that more than 2/3rds of his passes travel an average of less than 5 yards in the air.
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 2:05 pm to
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Long balls aren't difficult passes. Most of them are pre-snap reads anyways. Last stat I saw was that more than 2/3rds of his passes travel an average of less than 5 yards in the air.


Stats are often interesting. These for example, in an article 3 weeks ago........

"As much as he has done a great job protecting the football, Hurts had made a lot of big plays with his arm through the first half of this season. On throws travelling 20 yards or further downfield, Hurts has gone 14-for-40, and with two of those incompletions coming as a result of dropped passes. He has an adjusted accuracy percentage of 40.0 percent, ranking 18th among all quarterbacks, and the best among freshman signal callers. He has also gone 16-for-29 on throws between 10 and 19 yards downfield, so he’s finding big plays when necessary.

Perhaps more importantly, his ability to find big plays has improved over the past three weeks. In the wins over Kentucky, Arkansas and Tennessee, Hurts has completed eight of the 18 passes of 20 yards or further downfield he has attempted, while in the opening four weeks of the season he completed just six of the 22 he attempted. Alabama continues to look more and more dominant as the season wears on, and Hurts’ ability to find the big play downfield has been paramount to that on the offensive side of the ball."

How Jalen Hurts became a key to Alabama’s success

edit: That's "20 yards or further downfield" and not those jet sweep or screens where the receiver catches it behind or near the line of scrimmage and runs for 20 or however many yards.
This post was edited on 11/6/16 at 2:07 pm
Posted by LLJKSiLk
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
76 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 2:05 pm to
Yes. Stockpile tons of future NFL talent on the Defensive side of the ball.
Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
Member since Feb 2015
6839 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 2:09 pm to
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What was most frustrating last night was knowing that there were a lot of plays that COULD'VE worked and put points on the board not being put into action.


That's how we feel.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
7307 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 2:12 pm to
This is asinine. Running between the tackles was giving you a bit of success but it was also getting shut down. Passing game was also shite down. Outside runs were your friend last night, especially against a misaligned gassed defense in the 2nd half.

LSU shut down Alabamas offense more than any other team could have and that does include Michigan.

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