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re: Dennis Dodd CBS wants to remind the SEC schools that Texas University is a sleeping giant
Posted on 8/8/21 at 9:10 pm to BigSneezy
Posted on 8/8/21 at 9:10 pm to BigSneezy
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Let me break it down for you!
Because you clearly have no idea about what SEC football is. This is a pre-NFL level league. You need to be very big and very physical and recruit players that are the same.
The state of Texas is a spread football state. We don’t have a lot of teams that run ground and pound type offenses in this state. Alabama, Louisiana Mississippi and Florida have more.
We have great quarterbacks and great receivers and great skill positions in our state. We don’t have as many DBs TEs and huge linemen with the speed and power to play in the SEC.
Consequently, being “in Texas” helps a ton in the Big12 but not nearly as much in the SEC.
So while I totally agree you will definitely get your pick of the litter at these positions. I don’t agree that the best linemen necessarily come from Texas.
And if you don’t win in the trenches, you won’t win in this league. Even if you’re Texas.
So you need to answer the question, how will you recruit other states to get the linemen you will need.
Simply put, there are not enough big linemen coming out of our state to get what you need. You have to fill trench needs by nationally recruiting.
Maybe you can do that in a year or two but it’s NOT because you’ve locked down recruiting in Texas.
Your entire 2 deep on your O-line is from Texas. Quit making it more than it is. There are 165,000 kids playing high school football in Texas every year. There are enough kids in the state that can compete in the SEC for the Flagship Schools to fill what they need on their rosters. If there is a thin year they can go out of state and pick up a winner like they have in the past. I read an article that said in 2015 459 kids earned a scholarship out of the state of Texas. Imagine that. Every year, you got first pick, and all you need is 25 good ones.
The SEC has 94 Texas players on it's rosters outside of Texas A&M, and that's just the SEC. Many other leagues come in and poach players.
The state of Texas put 34 players in the league just last draft. 35 in the 2020 draft, and 27 in 2019. It is extremely talent rich at every position.
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Posted on 8/8/21 at 9:15 pm to Old Sarge
Texas has 4 national titles, how many does aTm have?
lol
lol
Posted on 8/8/21 at 9:17 pm to MillerLiteTime
quote:Yup. All it takes is the right head coach.
Anyone who acts like Texas can't ever consistently be at an Ohio St, Clemson, Oklahoma, etc level again is a fool. They have absolutely everything needed to win at an elite level. One day, probably soon, all the pieces will come together just as it did for Alabama and Ohio St after those programs had some rough stretches.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 9:18 pm to BigRedNewKingOfSEC
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Texas has 4 leather helmet national titles,
FIFY
Posted on 8/8/21 at 9:20 pm to FishFearMe
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You are kidding, "powerhouse" and you hired an assistant who was a mediocre head coach even when sober?
You squandered the advantages you had a long time ago. You can take your "advantages" and get a Starbucks if you have $5.
Most texas recruits have grown up watching Aggies play Bama, lsu and Auburn while longhorns rolled around in their own shite.
So let me get this straight? You think a school with no tradition in winning can turn its fortunes around but the 4th winningest school in history, with more NCs than anyone currently in the SEC not named Bama can't? Your AGGY is showing.
You are right, kids did grow up watching you play Bamma and LSU. However, now they know we are playing them, and unless you start winning something that advantage you have is going bye bye.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 9:22 pm to picollo
Wait, what advantage???
I was told an nauseum in 2011 and 2012 by horn that there was no advantage to the SEC.
Have the talking points changed?
I was told an nauseum in 2011 and 2012 by horn that there was no advantage to the SEC.
Have the talking points changed?
This post was edited on 8/8/21 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 8/8/21 at 9:23 pm to FishFearMe
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Texas has 4 leather helmet national titles,
FIFY
No leather helmets required
Posted on 8/8/21 at 9:43 pm to BigSneezy
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Dennis Dodd CBS wants to remind the SEC schools that Texas University is a sleeping giant
Okay I just gotta ask. And don’t turn this question around and make it about A&M. I’m not claiming A&M was a football prowess for generations, just that they are pretty awesome now. But anyway back to my question....
If this was so easy with all that money. And you can “just throw a rock” or whatever that was, how come your 3-7 against TCU over the last ten years?
Did the t shirt money dry up? Y’all are number 1 in revenue? Right? Was the league too hard? Not the right coaches? I mean you have all the money to buy the right ones?
Y’all gonna throw da rocks better?
I mean I agree with you. You should be able to compete. But we also have to look at why you aren’t.
Because you’re not competitive right now. So what is going to be different? Seriously.
You've answered the biggest reason they have sucked yourself. Shitty coaching / development for 10 years now...Getting that fixed will fix a lot of problems..
They are at the point now where the Texas brand doesn't automatically land them the recruits anymore, they still will get a handful of 4 star recruits in every class because they are Texas, but they are going to have to prove they are moving in the right direction by showing improvement on the field to get back to being elite...
Shaking off the stigma of being in a crappy conference will also help. Do you even know how much A&M and other SEC schools have used that to negative recruit against them the past 10 years? It has been like a dark cloud that never goes away..
Yes, Texas has a lot of PUF fund money, but it is not like you can use that for recruiting. You can use it to build a stadium, locker rooms, and crap like that.
NIL is a different animal though, that's where all the Tshirt and alumni fans can come into play, legally now, to make sure the players are handsomely rewarded and get the word out to other recruits...
Winning fixes a lot of things, they just need the right coach to start moving them in that direction or at least to show a positive trajectory in the right direction and that will turn them around. That is the only thing that turns college football teams like Texas around..They are one of the few schools fortunate enough to be sitting in a recruiting hotbed so the climb out of mediocrity isn't near as hard for them as it is for a school like Nebraska or Michigan..
This post was edited on 8/8/21 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 8/9/21 at 1:04 am to TexasForever
Aggies need to check the helmets of their 1939 national title team 
Posted on 8/9/21 at 1:43 am to Solo Cam
quote:This is an excellent example of a misguided post.
Y’all can take shots but what A&M like before Jimbo? Everyone said this about A&M - the resources are there, the talent is there, the commitment is there. It’s a only s matter of time before the wake up.
Your kidding yourself if you don’t think Texas could flip the switch and become a power. Starts on the trail, X’s and O’s dont mean dick without jimmies and joes
No, just because people on the SECN - and I was extremely disappointed to see and hear this - said, some years ago, **** like, "Well, we always knew A&M always had the money, and had the facilities . . . "
Total bull****.
Do a little research if you care, and if you don't, then I would ask you, as politely as possible, to stop posting untruthful things, because, quite apparently, a large portion of our nation just believes what's spoon-fed to them, and it's not helping.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 2:22 am to CharlotteSooner
Assemble your team from Tejas and I'll assemble one with guys from Florida.
I wouldn't be surprised if EVERY D-I AND D-II doesn't have a guy from The Sunshine State.
I wouldn't be surprised if EVERY D-I AND D-II doesn't have a guy from The Sunshine State.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 6:06 am to Bobbum Man
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Wait, what advantage???
I was told an nauseum in 2011 and 2012 by horn that there was no advantage to the SEC.
Have the talking points changed?
Tex / Aggies
11 31
1 18
8 14
9 10
13 11
6 7
3 41
8 16
6 27
4 34
2 16 - 2012
17 9
17 5
10 11
7 18
25 13
3 17
3 4
8 6
Aggy has not overtaken us in recruiting, merely closed the gap. The gap used to be wide. The last 20 years is above. Texas averaged a 7 ranking those first 11 years, while Aggy averaged 21. Aggie made the move to the SEC and narrowed the gap because they can sell "SEC" to the recruits and Texas couldn't. However, the average ranking is still Texas 9 and A&M 11. How is Texas still able to do that you ask? Because it can sell the University and tradition. Now that it's in the SEC, it can sell that to recruits as well. Make no mistake, kids would still rather live in Austin than College Station. It might take a year or two, but unless A&M wins a natty it's shine will wear off.
So let's straighten something else out. Bama and LSU are great. No one is scared of a single other team in the SEC. No one. The advantage is that the marketing strategy is working. Disney has been thumping the SEC's chest for a decade, and due to the two teams at the top taking turns winning championships, the marketing strategy has gained a lot of traction. Since football integration, the SEC schools have always sat in recruiting hotbeds not just recently. Texas is not intimidated because it has faced the top teams and played level football with them.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 6:50 am to picollo
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2 16 - 2012
17 9
17 5
10 11
7 18
25 13
3 17
3 4
8 6
15 8 - 2021
You conveniently left out 2021. The significant recruiting gap has been vanquished and is dead even since A&M joined the SEC.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 7:20 am to BigSneezy
Can’t really argue against this.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 7:25 am to Old Sarge
He's an idiot, but we knew that already.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:03 am to AZHorn
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You've answered the biggest reason they have sucked yourself. Shitty coaching / development for 10 years now...Getting that fixed will fix a lot of problems..
Oh, so have good coaching. Makes perfect sense. That’s gonna change it, I agree.
Sounds like you believe that about yourself but Jimbo winning 89% of his games last year finished highly ranked, this is just “down year and they got lucky “.
What it sounds like is you believe we just need to be in the “SEC and have a great coach” if it’s your team but somehow that your team is somehow unique in this position?
Even when they have recruited even or better.
Have a better record than you had while there were in an SEC school.
Had better bowl games etc.
Ban bet offer. Second time. A&M loses only one game. One year ban if I am right. We have a coach that will our coach yours. For that matter so does four or five teams in the SEC.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:08 am to picollo
Yep, you just need to get away from the superior teams that are beating you regularly, things will e much easier for you in the SEC
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:19 am to Old Sarge
I like how Texas fans and also LSU fans like to go far, far, far back in history to convince themselves that their programs are currently in an upward momentum swing.
Reality is who GIVES a CRAP about national titles from years ago. I personally don't even care about it last year as I focus on the status of the program today and coming into the season. Nothing else matters unless you like to stare at posters and archives from the past. This is where Saban gets immense respect. U think he cares about last years Championship right now?
Freaking weak. Almost always comes from the delusional, scared & generally very pissed off fans. "It's not fair mentality".....guys talking about their success over a 50 year period. Recruit don't give a flying F about that. They want to come into a program that is HOT and popular TODAY. Programs that are clearly on the up and up.
So live in the past while others crawl over those decaying remains of historical sites....
Reality is who GIVES a CRAP about national titles from years ago. I personally don't even care about it last year as I focus on the status of the program today and coming into the season. Nothing else matters unless you like to stare at posters and archives from the past. This is where Saban gets immense respect. U think he cares about last years Championship right now?
Freaking weak. Almost always comes from the delusional, scared & generally very pissed off fans. "It's not fair mentality".....guys talking about their success over a 50 year period. Recruit don't give a flying F about that. They want to come into a program that is HOT and popular TODAY. Programs that are clearly on the up and up.
So live in the past while others crawl over those decaying remains of historical sites....
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:20 am to FootsFanatic
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LSU fans
You lost me here, LSU has a very very recent trophy
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:23 am to CharlotteSooner
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CharlotteSooner
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They're like a little rich kid who has a garage full of nice tools he doesn't know how to use
Perfect analogy
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