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Posted on 8/8/21 at 2:27 pm to Old Sarge
Anyone who acts like Texas can't ever consistently be at an Ohio St, Clemson, Oklahoma, etc level again is a fool. They have absolutely everything needed to win at an elite level. One day, probably soon, all the pieces will come together just as it did for Alabama and Ohio St after those programs had some rough stretches.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 2:54 pm to MillerLiteTime
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Anyone who acts like Texas can't ever consistently be at an Ohio St, Clemson, Oklahoma, etc level again is a fool. They have absolutely everything needed to win at an elite level. One day, probably soon, all the pieces will come together just as it did for Alabama and Ohio St after those programs had some rough stretches.
This...The Aggies act like Texas is sitting in BFE, a la Michigan, or something, just because they have hit a rough patch. They can walk outside the campus and throw a rock in any direction and hit a 4 or 5 star recruit...They will be back, just a matter of getting the right coach...
Evey major college is going to benefit from this NIL rule...A school like Texas with millions of Tshirt fans buying gear, donating to the cause ain't staying down forever..
The more they believe that, the sweeter the Aggie tears will be when Texas does turn it around..
This post was edited on 8/8/21 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 8/8/21 at 2:56 pm to MillerLiteTime
Actually they have some issues those other schools don’t but it’s not impossible just improbable
Much more likely to see them trend further down. They have become a commuter school and that’s not really going to change
Much more likely to see them trend further down. They have become a commuter school and that’s not really going to change
Posted on 8/8/21 at 3:01 pm to Old Sarge
Not much bud. Just sitting around with my foot propped up. (Had surgery not too long ago on my ankle.).
How have you and yours been?
How have you and yours been?
Posted on 8/8/21 at 3:01 pm to Gcockboi
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The state of Texas produces the best HS recruits by far.
Boi you on drugs.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 3:30 pm to AZHorn
Okay I just gotta ask. And don’t turn this question around and make it about A&M. I’m not claiming A&M was a football prowess for generations, just that they are pretty awesome now. But anyway back to my question....
If this was so easy with all that money. And you can “just throw a rock” or whatever that was, how come your 3-7 against TCU over the last ten years?
Did the t shirt money dry up? Y’all are number 1 in revenue? Right? Was the league too hard? Not the right coaches? I mean you have all the money to buy the right ones?
Y’all gonna throw da rocks better?
I mean I agree with you. You should be able to compete. But we also have to look at why you aren’t.
Because you’re not competitive right now. So what is going to be different? Seriously.
If this was so easy with all that money. And you can “just throw a rock” or whatever that was, how come your 3-7 against TCU over the last ten years?
Did the t shirt money dry up? Y’all are number 1 in revenue? Right? Was the league too hard? Not the right coaches? I mean you have all the money to buy the right ones?
Y’all gonna throw da rocks better?
I mean I agree with you. You should be able to compete. But we also have to look at why you aren’t.
Because you’re not competitive right now. So what is going to be different? Seriously.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 5:29 pm to BigSneezy
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that they are pretty awesome now.
Who? Aggie?
Since 2012:
- Zero National titles
- Zero CFP appearances
- Zero SEC titles
- Zero Western Division titles
Pretty Awesome.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 5:32 pm to AZHorn
A&M has nothing to brag about or be proud of so they try to muddy the waters by bashing Texas. Look how they brag about their 2 wins against LSU and ignore all the losses.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 6:07 pm to Jebeco
Doing great, work is picking up and still having time to travel and play a lot
Posted on 8/8/21 at 7:17 pm to CharlotteSooner
quote:No they don’t look at their drafts
They have talent. They always do. They're like a little rich kid who has a garage full of nice tools he doesn't know how to use.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 7:24 pm to KingofTexas
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&M has nothing to brag about or be proud of so they try to muddy the waters by bashing Texas. Look how they brag about their 2 wins against LSU and ignore all the losses.
Dude they are ranked 6 now and 4 last season. Seriously every single person that is a sports journalist is the nation currently disagrees with you.
I’m not saying they are a perennial powerhouse. I’m saying right now they are very good.
They are. If you don’t think so, you’re a moron.
And to prove it, I am willing to do a ban bet. I will bet you that A&M will finish the season with no more than 1 loss.
Either bet me, or get the F OUT OF HERE. self imposed ban for 1 year.
This post was edited on 8/8/21 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 8/8/21 at 7:37 pm to Old Sarge
He didn’t say sleeping…….he said they were woke.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 7:49 pm to pioneerbasketball
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Arkansas has finished outside of the ap top 25 for 9 years straight
And you should know your remarkable feat has
not gone unrecognized.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 7:56 pm to Bobbum Man
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You seem have trouble delineating history (sometimes very ancient history) from observable trends when a divergence exists. I hope you don't have an analytical job that requires you formulate projections. You display what is almost similar to an "anchoring" bias.
Let's simplify this. Ballpark, what to you think Texas' winning % is their first 5 years in the SEC? Do you think they go to an SEC title game in 10 years? Do you think they win one? Honest questions.
No, it is you that seems to have trouble with the idea that the 4th winningest team of all time did not get there by accident, and can rebound from a couple bad coaching hires. As if every powerhouse program outside of Ohio State has not had a down decade. It happens, but it does not mean that Texas is dead in the water. It simply means that they need a good coach. Let me break it down for you.
Look at a map of the United States that shows where football players come from. Now go do a little research into the top teams over the years and it will become extremely clear why those teams are good. Southern California, the Southeast, Florida, Texas, and Ohio. Sure as shite the programs in those places are the ones who are historically good. Now you have some outliers like Michigan, who used to poach players from Ohio and had a pipeline to Cali for QBs. Or ND, who's academics were so coveted that kids wanted to play there for the prestige. The rest are good because of where they are.
Texas is smack dab in the middle of a state that sends 350 kids to D1 schools every year. In recent years schools have been able to sell other conferences to poach top recruits from the state. However, the playing field just got leveled.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 8:13 pm to picollo
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Let me break it down for you.
Look at a map of the United States that shows where football players come from. Now go do a little research into the top teams over the years and it will become extremely clear why those teams are good. Southern California, the Southeast, Florida, Texas, and Ohio. Sure as shite the programs in those places are the ones who are historically good. Now you have some outliers like Michigan, who used to poach players from Ohio and had a pipeline to Cali for QBs. Or ND, who's academics were so coveted that kids wanted to play there for the prestige. The rest are good because of where they are.
Texas is smack dab in the middle of a state that sends 350 kids to D1 schools every year. In recent years schools have been able to sell other conferences to poach top recruits from the state. However, the playing field just got leveled.
Let me break it down for you!
Because you clearly have no idea about what SEC football is. This is a pre-NFL level league. You need to be very big and very physical and recruit players that are the same.
The state of Texas is a spread football state. We don’t have a lot of teams that run ground and pound type offenses in this state. Alabama, Louisiana Mississippi and Florida have more.
We have great quarterbacks and great receivers and great skill positions in our state. We don’t have as many DBs TEs and huge linemen with the speed and power to play in the SEC.
Consequently, being “in Texas” helps a ton in the Big12 but not nearly as much in the SEC.
So while I totally agree you will definitely get your pick of the litter at these positions. I don’t agree that the best linemen necessarily come from Texas.
And if you don’t win in the trenches, you won’t win in this league. Even if you’re Texas.
So you need to answer the question, how will you recruit other states to get the linemen you will need.
Simply put, there are not enough big linemen coming out of our state to get what you need. You have to fill trench needs by nationally recruiting.
Maybe you can do that in a year or two but it’s NOT because you’ve locked down recruiting in Texas.
This post was edited on 8/8/21 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 8/8/21 at 8:25 pm to BigSneezy
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kay I just gotta ask. And don’t turn this question around and make it about A&M. I’m not claiming A&M was a football prowess for generations, just that they are pretty awesome now. But anyway back to my question....
If this was so easy with all that money. And you can “just throw a rock” or whatever that was, how come your 3-7 against TCU over the last ten years?
Did the t shirt money dry up? Y’all are number 1 in revenue? Right? Was the league too hard? Not the right coaches? I mean you have all the money to buy the right ones?
Y’all gonna throw da rocks better?
I mean I agree with you. You should be able to compete. But we also have to look at why you aren’t.
Because you’re not competitive right now. So what is going to be different? Seriously.
End of Mack's tenure we go all in on Garrett Gilbert. Turned out to be trash. We somehow give a "thank you" scholarship to Case Mccoy. Never should've happened. Had all our hops on David Ash. He gets a concussion and quits football. Then there was Shane Buechelle, 3 interceptions and 2 fumbles vs Kansas. Says everything you need to know.
Then in comes Tom Herman. Bad hire from the start. The slow, methodical, QB heavy, offense is a bad fit for the Big12. There are going to be days where the defense isn't clicking, and the offense needs to carry you. It could not. That Urban Meyer offense requires a real athlete at QB. Ask Florida. So we kept too many teams in games and lost 9 out the last 12 losses by a single score. That's how you have a down decade. A coach that stayed too long, followed by two bad fits. It happens a lot, and most powerhouses can look back in their history and see a decade like this.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 8:27 pm to MillerLiteTime
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Anyone who acts like Texas can't ever consistently be at an Ohio St, Clemson, Oklahoma, etc level again is a fool. They have absolutely everything needed to win at an elite level. One day, probably soon, all the pieces will come together just as it did for Alabama and Ohio St after those programs had some rough stretches.
I'll believe it when I see it but the first step in showing they are committed to giving a shite about football and turning it around was the move to the SEC.
Last two school presidents before Hartzell (current pres), who is a UT grad, were liberal academia from Cal Berkley. To be in the SEC 10 years after just days away form being in the far left dead conference that is the PAC shows that Texas is at least serious about football.
Whether it results in on the field success is up to Sark. Talent is there, its why the 2019 team could go toe-to-toe with LSU yet lose 37-27 and turn the ball over 4 times against 5-7 TCU... Have the talent, just no discipline, coaching, or execution on a week to week basis.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 8:34 pm to picollo
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and most powerhouses can look back in their
You are kidding, "powerhouse" and you hired an assistant who was a mediocre head coach even when sober?
You squandered the advantages you had a long time ago. You can take your "advantages" and get a Starbucks if you have $5.
Most texas recruits have grown up watching Aggies play Bama, lsu and Auburn while longhorns rolled around in their own shite.
This post was edited on 8/8/21 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 8/8/21 at 9:03 pm to Bobbum Man
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You seem have trouble delineating history (sometimes very ancient history) from observable trends when a divergence exists. I hope you don't have an analytical job that requires you formulate projections. You display what is almost similar to an "anchoring" bias.
Let's simplify this. Ballpark, what to you think Texas' winning % is their first 5 years in the SEC? Do you think they go to an SEC title game in 10 years? Do you think they win one? Honest questions.
What you are asking has nothing to do with analytics and is just pure guessing into the future.
You are playing the same game anybody does when looking at past history which is framing it in a way that benefits your point. Did Texas lose 5 of their last 11 against Baylor or did Texas win 5 of their last 6? What about Texas won 18 of their last 23?
I can promise you don't want to formulate projections for A&M, certainly not any that have any kind of dependence on past performance. A&M had a 53.2% winning percentage in SWC play, a 52.7% winning percentage in Big 12 play, and a 57.5% winning percentage in SEC play... You just had your highest AP poll finish since 1939 and it was 4th.
Who knows what is going to happen. Alabama had a futile decade from 1997-2007. At the time Saban was hired LSU was winning a national title under Les Miles, Auburn (little brother) was competing at a high level under Tuberville, Georgia was competing at a high level under Richt, and Florida was kicking the shite out of people under Urban. Nobody would have predicted Saban would do what he did but it happened.
Texas has all the tools to compete at a high level and has many times over its history, we'll see if Sark can get us back there.
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